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  • Springfield45
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2426

    Originally posted by dustoff31
    The technology does exist. But it is very expensive, stupid, and will never produce the results stated by proponents. That does not make it unconstitutional however. Just expensive and stupid.
    I think the law stated that Micro-stamping would not be Required until there was a manufacture that was using it. No one picked it up but Komifornia made it a requirement anyway. So they did not even follow their own law.

    Besides that the Heller SC decision stated it was Unconstitutional to ban a type of gun that was in popular use. Because of micro-stamping and other requirements of the so called safe handgun list they are banning handguns.

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    • dustoff31
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2007
      • 8209

      Originally posted by Springfield45
      I think the law stated that Micro-stamping would not be Required until there was a manufacture that was using it. No one picked it up but Komifornia made it a requirement anyway. So they did not even follow their own law.
      I'm pretty sure it was that it wouldn't be required until the patent was unemcumbered or whatever word they used. Which means that it is available to be used by whoever wants to. Thus far, nobody wants to.

      It's interesting to note that neither the lawsuits filed against microstamping, or S&W and Ruger's statements about microstamping claim that the technology is not available. Only that it is, as I said above expensive, stupid, doesn't do what it is advertised to do.
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      • JohnCCW
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1307

        If 10mm is your fancy, Kimber leaving would mean no On-Roster 1911 in 10mm.
        And a Glock would be the only option left.
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        • Kestryll
          Head Janitor
          • Oct 2005
          • 21580

          Originally posted by dustoff31
          The technology does exist. But it is very expensive, stupid, and will never produce the results stated by proponents. That does not make it unconstitutional however. Just expensive and stupid.
          No, it does not exist in this regards.
          Can items be microstamped? Yes.
          Can casings be microstamped upon firing? No.

          The guy who invented the process has even said recently that the theory exists but practical application does not.

          Add in that the law requires marking in two separate locations on the casing and that the marks have to remain viable after a specific use cycle, a standard which nothing has been created to meet, and no the tech does not exist.

          Of course Ruger and S&W aren't going to say the reason it needs to be overturned is the tech doesn't exist. That would be tantamount to saying 'Once it exist we can do it'. Expense is a more viable legal strategy as it will never change and only get worse.
          They're smart, they're playing the long game.



          Originally posted by Springfield45
          I think the law stated that Micro-stamping would not be Required until there was a manufacture that was using it. No one picked it up but Komifornia made it a requirement anyway. So they did not even follow their own law.
          The manufacturer clause was part of New Jersey's 'Smart Gun' law.

          Microstamping was put on hold because the law says you can not mandate the use of something encumbered by patent.
          Essentially that would be the same as passing a law that says you must patronize 'BusinessX'.
          Up until recently the microstamping technology was so encumbered although some do make valid arguments that the entire process would still qualify as encumbered.
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          • william444
            Junior Member
            • May 2015
            • 86

            Micro stamping is going to effectively stop manufacturers from selling guns in California. To my knowledge, micro stamping is a technology that's only theoretical, and not a single manufacturer has "micro-stamping". That's why the liberals in this state pushed for and got it passed into law. The whole thing was a ploy to dry up handgun sales in California...

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