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  • Eric B
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 651

    Out of battery primer strike?

    Not in 30 years of shooting have I had this issue or brass that come out of a gun that looked like this.

    When the round went off, it was obvious there was an issue. Weird sound and I got a face full of crap. Sadly, I'm not sure if it was a round I actually pulled the trigger on as I was torture testing a spanking new P226 and was doing mag dumps.

    Also, I was shooting a hodge podge of old HD/SD ammo and practice crap. Some of it was probably 15 to 20 years old and surely not stored in the best conditions.

    I field stripped it and all was fine. Put it back together and shot another 100 rounds.

    What say ye, CalGunners?



  • #2
    BeFrank
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 594

    Could that have been a reloaded case with a "bulge" ?

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    • #3
      HardwoodRods
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1093

      How old is your 226? If memory serves there was an out of battery lawsuit around 2000 or so for faulty design. I'll look for the info
      "A free people ought to be armed" George Washington, 1790

      "Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have war, let it begin here" Capt. John Parker, 19 April 1776, Lexington Green

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      • #4
        ScorpioVI
        Member
        • Oct 2004
        • 364

        Looks familiar. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=926401

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        • #5
          HardwoodRods
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1093

          Glocks have an unsupported chamber so that can definitely happen with a reload and a Glock. For it to happen in the 226 the round was not fully chambered.
          "A free people ought to be armed" George Washington, 1790

          "Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have war, let it begin here" Capt. John Parker, 19 April 1776, Lexington Green

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          • #6
            P5Ret
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2010
            • 6361

            Out of battery discharge is nearly impossible with most modern guns. Most disconnector's are so sensitive that even a couple mm will keep it from functioning.

            I'd check to make sure you have full travel on the firing pin and there isn't any gunk trapped in the channel, making it protrude slightly. Other than that I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to the possible cause, but yeah, if it goes off prior to full lock up it may be it.

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            • #7
              Eric B
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 651

              I had a few zip lock bags with old ammo, I had no frigging clue where I got them. I'm assuming it was out of that batch. I was also shooting American Eagle, and CCI/Speer, and a bunch of factory LE rounds.

              I just picked the gun up new a month or so ago. Box says it was made on 7/9/15.

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              • #8
                Eric B
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 651

                Originally posted by P5Ret
                Out of battery discharge is nearly impossible with most modern guns. Most disconnector's are so sensitive that even a couple mm will keep it from functioning.

                I'd check to make sure you have full travel on the firing pin and there isn't any gunk trapped in the channel, making it protrude slightly. Other than that I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to the possible cause, but yeah, if it goes off prior to full lock up it may be it.
                First thing I thought of was the pin being forced out by crap. Didn't appear so then and not now either. I'll be pulling it apart later tonight.
                Last edited by Eric B; 09-17-2015, 3:25 PM. Reason: speeling

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                • #9
                  stormvet
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 12109

                  Originally posted by HardwoodRods
                  Glocks have an unsupported chamber so that can definitely happen with a reload and a Glock. For it to happen in the 226 the round was not fully chambered.
                  Again with this FUD, hello it's 2015, not 1990.

                  I think your Sig was in full battery when this happened. I would guess weak brass/faulty round. Where the separation begins there is no support at the feed ramp, no matter the gun. Bad round...
                  Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                  • #10
                    PolishMike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 6034

                    Looks like weak brass. Immediate action and move on with life.
                    Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                    • #11
                      Eric B
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 651

                      Originally posted by PolishMike
                      Looks like weak brass. Immediate action and move on with life.
                      This was the plan. Glad to hear it.

                      Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

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                      • #12
                        Bobshouse
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 516

                        Zip lock bags are for sandwiches.

                        Try shooting it with some new brass in a box to see if you get the same results.

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                        • #13
                          Kean
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 168

                          Originally posted by PolishMike
                          Looks like weak brass. Immediate action and move on with life.
                          ....similar thing happened to a friend of mine with store-bought reloads. I've also had brass split with other reloads but those were in my revolvers. That's why I don't run them in semi-autos (unless I was going to make them myself). Not saying new, factory ammo couldn't do the same thing (or that's the OPs problem) but I never had that problem with those myself.

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                          • #14
                            Ronin2
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 5563

                            I only shoot new manufacture ammunition. Nothing worse than being penny wise and dollar dumb!

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                            • #15
                              RustyIron
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 569

                              I've had a lot of splits on brass that has been reloaded a lot of times, and on some 50+ year old ammo. Brass can become brittle over time, or when in the presence of some chemical vapors. Since you don't remember the history of the ammunition, I wouldn't get too excited about it.

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