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  • Gunxy
    Junior Member
    • May 2015
    • 30

    Beretta problems

  • #2
    gumby
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 2331

    Funny how different we shooters can be. I shoot the Beretta best out of all my guns (15). It's my 1911's that i can't shoot, all 7 of them! BTW, I'm just south of you in orange county.

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    • #3
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11759

      Yes it is fixable.
      It needs a stronger trigger return spring, or one with more preload.
      That doesn't mean back up to 15 lbs, just a little more.
      Your gunsmith should make this adjustment for free, unless you brought him a spring kit and said "install this".

      Generally what I have found with spring kits is that they give a nice trigger pull but don't always function well.
      OK for a range gun, for a defense gun something in between the originals and a spring kit seems best.
      This may require some modification of the original springs and use of some springs from the kit.
      Last edited by ojisan; 09-17-2015, 2:14 PM.

      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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      • #4
        himurax13
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 3895

        I have never worked on a Berretta, and I have no plans to.

        However, it sounds to me that the trigger return spring was reinstalled improperly. I would take it back to that gunsmith and have him fix it or find somebody else who actually knows what they are doing.

        I don't trust gunsmiths with my guns unless I am in need of a special tool or a machine.
        Originally posted by Bumslie
        HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
        Originally posted by Sleighter
        Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

        Lifetime NRA member.

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        • #5
          EspoMan
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 1618

          My Beretta M9A1 has to be one of the most accurate 9mm pistol I've shot. Never had a problem with it. Same with my 25+ year old Beretta 92FS I carry at work.
          Living in the free State of Nevada

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          • #6
            pdoggeth
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 369

            When you dry fire , your gun isn't experiencing the pressures of the powder igniting, nor the slide recoiling back all in a split second. Probably the pressure and recoil is causing problem with your trigger reset spring. Some place might be binding up to prevent the trigger from resetting all the way.

            In any case, since you did get a smith to do these upgrades, as a courtesy he really should fix that for you. You could call him and tell him what's going on; if he was an honest smith he would fix it for you free of charge, unless as the above poster said, you provided him the springs and said "install this". And in anycase, if it was just a few springs, he should only charge a very minor price for such an easy un-installation.

            Welcome to the board by the way, and also welcome to the wild world of gun culture. My first centerfire gun was also a 92fs =).

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            • #7
              CandG
              Spent $299 for this text!
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2014
              • 16970

              What happens when you shoot reloads? You said it's a "no go" but didn't say why. I've been shooting reloads in mine since day one, never had any problems.
              Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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              • #8
                wu_dot_com
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 1362

                without seeing pictures i also agreed that your problem can occur in two places.

                1 is the trigger return spring. the smith either installed it wrong, or he over adjust the spring tension.

                2. is a V shape spring that rest below the trigger bar. if that spring was installed wrong, the trigger will experience hard time resetting after cycling.

                to fix issue 1, I would recommend you to get Wolf INS trigger spring http://www.midwayusa.com/product/341...urus-pt92-pt99.

                find a light option for your need.

                to fix issue 2, take off your grip and inspect the spring. reinstall it in the right position, and bent the spring as needed to obtain positive engagement.

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                • #9
                  Gunxy
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 30

                  Thanks guys for response and helping me to understand mechanics of gun. I will take gun to Smith next week and see what he says. The original springs were from Wilson Combat but I returned gun to Smith. The trigger was too hard to pull. He worked on trigger again and I guess he used different springs because the pull on trigger is light, now.
                  Regarding reloads, I have bought reloads in Turners in Ventura Co. I think,called "American Legacy." I had so many multiple failures on this ammo that was depressing. Twice ammo stuck at the entrance of the barrel, which it was scary to me, but I was able to remove it. I was upset, I rented Gluck 19 and shooted failed ammo. Out of 21 failed ammo on Beretta, only two failed on Gluck (primer?). Since I am planning to buy another gun, I have bought "American Legacy" again (it was cheaper), this time 357 Magnum and 45ACP to use it on rented guns. On rented S&W revolvers and 1911 pistols out of 50 in bag, I have 2-3 failures on the average, so it wasn't bad. I hope I did not step on too many toes here. I am aware of many happy Beretta owners but unfortunately I am not one of them.

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                  • #10
                    micro911
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2346

                    I am Beretta factory armorer trained at the factory in Maryland. If you are close by, I can take a look. For free..

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                    • #11
                      samz4mc
                      Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 152

                      Originally posted by micro911
                      I am Beretta factory armorer trained at the factory in Maryland. If you are close by, I can take a look. For free..
                      BAM! This is Calguns at its best... Helping out a neighbor.

                      I currently own 4 Beretta firearms. Never had a problem with any of them. Like someone else said, your issues are most likely from improper gunsmithing. Take it back and they shouldn't have to charge you for it.

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                      • #12
                        maylebox
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1155

                        Trigger issues coupled with ammo issues, man that sucks. Sorry for your misfortunes. As mentioned above I would have the smith take another look at it or take micro911 up on his generous offer if the geography works. The good news is it can be fixed. The right smith and parts and you'll likely end up with just what you were looking for and can put semi autos back on your shooting list. Good luck getting it resolved and let us know how it works out.
                        "Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here"

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                        • #13
                          EspoMan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 1618

                          Originally posted by micro911
                          I am Beretta factory armorer trained at the factory in Maryland. If you are close by, I can take a look. For free..
                          Where are you located? I'll keep you in mind for my M9A1.
                          Living in the free State of Nevada

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                          • #14
                            BrassCase
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3184

                            I'm curious which trigger spring the smith put in. My 92FS is also about 6 months old. First thing I did was to change to the Beretta "D" spring to lighten the DA pull. It worked great. I've never had the issue you experienced and I've run at least 1000 rounds through it since then.
                            I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
                            NRA Certified:

                            Chief Range Safety Officer
                            Instructor: Basic Pistol Shooting
                            Instructor: Personal Protection Inside the Home

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                            • #15
                              SonofWWIIDI
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 21583

                              Wall of text, DNR. Paragraphs are your friend.

                              Sorry, not sorry.
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                              Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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