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  • Michichael
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 11

    p226 Lockback Issue

    Hey all, I'm having an issue with my p226 slide not locking back with the magazines I have. They're quite a bit old, but I've tried replacing it with the typical 10 round spring on them, still no dice. I can see the follower connecting with the slide stop lever in the mechanism, it just doesn't seem to have enough "unf" to push it all the way up unless I'm holding the bottom of the magazine into the pistol.

    Would swapping out the follower and spring from one of these kits do the trick: http://www.loyalsguns.com/collection...bl-rebuild-kit ?
  • #2
    9kracing
    Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 406

    Are you sure you're not riding the slide release? It's pretty common on Sigs, I do it on my 226 sometimes.
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    • #3
      protohyp
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Sep 2014
      • 3349

      Take out the spring and stretch them. it'll bring some life back into them and should push the follower high enough to lock the slide back. If it doesn't work you'll probably have to discard the gun or give it to me
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      • #4
        Michichael
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 11

        Absolutely sure. It'll lock back properly if I hold the magazine "in" with my pinky, there's about a 2-3mm give on the magazine.

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        • #5
          tbc
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2011
          • 5955

          Not locking back when you shot the gun or when you rack the slide with an empty mag?

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          • #6
            P5Ret
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2010
            • 6374

            Make sure the slide stop moves freely, and you can manually lock the slide back with no mag in place. If that isn't the issue take the slide off and put in an empty mag to make sure that the follower is doing it's part. Lastly make sure you have the springs in the mags correctly, if the spring is in backwards it has been know to cause the issue you have.

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            • #7
              Michichael
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 11

              Originally posted by P5Ret
              Make sure the slide stop moves freely, and you can manually lock the slide back with no mag in place. If that isn't the issue take the slide off and put in an empty mag to make sure that the follower is doing it's part. Lastly make sure you have the springs in the mags correctly, if the spring is in backwards it has been know to cause the issue you have.
              Does, can, and like I said if I hold the magazine up all the way the follower seems to connect fully to hold the magazine open. It won't lock back after firing or with the empty magazine in. A buddy of mine used his standard capacity magazine in it and it locked back just fine, which is why I think it could be the spring or follower.

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              • #8
                RobertMW
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 2117

                Originally posted by Michichael
                Absolutely sure. It'll lock back properly if I hold the magazine "in" with my pinky, there's about a 2-3mm give on the magazine.
                That's quite a bit. In the front of the mag there is a hole where your magazine release will hold it in the gun, has that been damaged over time? Secondly, has the magazine release inside the gun itself been damaged to have the same effect?
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                • #9
                  Michichael
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 11

                  Originally posted by RobertMW
                  That's quite a bit. In the front of the mag there is a hole where your magazine release will hold it in the gun, has that been damaged over time? Secondly, has the magazine release inside the gun itself been damaged to have the same effect?
                  Not that I can tell. There's no obvious or significant wear on it, and the magazine release works just fine. When you push the magazine "up" a bit, it has resistance like there's a spring pushing back against it a bit. Hitting the release allows the magazine to spring out about an inch before gravity takes effect. Holding in the magazine release removes that resistance.

                  Edit: Oh and this is for both magazines I have that came with the firearm, not just one.
                  Last edited by Michichael; 08-20-2015, 12:35 PM.

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                  • #10
                    tbc
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5955

                    Another thing you should check is to ensure the slide stop lever not over lubed.

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                    • #11
                      Michichael
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 11

                      Originally posted by tbc
                      Another thing you should check is to ensure the slide stop lever not over lubed.
                      This is a possibility. I'll give it a cleaning and see if it makes a difference. Thanks!

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                      • #12
                        P5Ret
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 6374

                        Originally posted by Michichael
                        Does, can, and like I said if I hold the magazine up all the way the follower seems to connect fully to hold the magazine open. It won't lock back after firing or with the empty magazine in. A buddy of mine used his standard capacity magazine in it and it locked back just fine, which is why I think it could be the spring or follower.
                        Ok that eliminates 2 possibilities. I have 20+ year old sig mags that function fine, that doesn't mean that the springs aren't bad in your's but for both to go bad at the same time, would be unusual. Have the mags been taken apart? If they have I'd make sure that the springs are in correctly before I spend any money on replacement parts. Mags go bad they aren't made to last forever, but they should have a service life of more than 10 years with quality mags.

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                        • #13
                          tbc
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 5955

                          Originally posted by Michichael
                          This is a possibility. I'll give it a cleaning and see if it makes a difference. Thanks!

                          And also check the orientation of the magazine spring.

                          Good luck OP.

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                          • #14
                            SkyHawk
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 23518

                            Details matter. Is your Sig 9mm or .40? Was it a CA version or free state, and someone swapped in CA mags? What magazines do you have, exactly? 10rd CA mags? blocked 12rd mags? Pics of mags?

                            Also what year is your Sig? For a while, Sig 10rd mags would cause this problem exactly on German guns. It is a known problem.

                            The fact that a mag you borrowed works fine, says that your mags are the problem. Sig may send you followers for free, or a new slide catch lever.

                            Anyhow, call Sig - they already know about this. When I bought my CPO West German Sig last year via SSE, I wanted factory 10rd mags but I made sure to test the ones the store gave me before I accepted them, because I knew of this problem. I forget what the best acceptable fix is. While followers may fix it, the best solution may be an updated slide lock lever so any mag you ever try in the future will work.

                            long thread here: http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...35/m/749101723



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                            Last edited by SkyHawk; 08-20-2015, 1:20 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Michichael
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 11

                              Originally posted by SkyHawk
                              Details matter. Is your Sig 9mm or .40? Was it a CA version or free state, and someone swapped in CA mags? What magazines do you have, exactly? 10rd CA mags? blocked 12rd mags? Pics of mags?

                              Also what year is your Sig? For a while, Sig 10rd mags would cause this problem exactly on German guns. It is a known problem.
                              Sorry, it's a SIG p226 Equinox in .40. Purchased in CA from an FFL, date on the box says Feb 2012. Came with 2 CA 10rd mags.

                              Pic of mag:



                              Pic of the "offset" at the bottom of the pistol grip. If I push it up it locks back just fine.



                              Here's some other pics of the slide lock failing to engage:







                              Originally posted by SkyHawk
                              Thanks, I'll check it out.

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