Ed Brown vs Les Baer

[fennecfrank]

Ed brown = Ferrari
Les Baer= Mercedes


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A Ferrari will be an SVI, not an Ed Brown. If using Mercedes for Les Baer, I would say Ed Brown = BMW.

[Bert Gamble]

Pick the one you like the best. Both are no lose choices.

[Sheik_Yerbutay]

Guncrafter No Name

[jdben92883]

They may say it, but LB means it. My Sig Scorpion needed no break-in. Nor did my RIA Tactical. My NHC Predator's slide is on Swiss ball-bearings. My LB Premier required a few hundred rounds to shoot problem-free and I bought that used. Like I said, LB designs his guns that way...they are SUPER tight as in, often can't get the bushing off by hand, tight. But it seems silly to expect/require the end-user to dump $300 down the barrel to get everything settled in.

As far as I know all manufacturers say you need 500 rounds for them to break in before you see it perform at its peak performance. I've always taken that as a general rule of thumb for firearms. Sig Sauer and Kimber have both said exactly that to me in person when discussing their 1911s. They shoot just fine before then. They just get even better as they break in.

[jdben92883]

Not sure how an EB = a Ferrari. There's nothing flashy, racey, or exotic about them at all. Just the opposite actually.

EB = Mercedes E-class
LB = Mercedes C-class

Ed brown = Ferrari
Les Baer= Mercedes


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[5ZS]

Whoa now, let's not analogize Baer's as Benz/Beemers.

Let's let the head man analogize himself:

https://www.lesbaer.com/boss45.html

https://www.lesbaer.com/Hemi572.html

Ed Brown, hmmm...diva cars/safe queen, one in a while, but rarely do you see on one at the range/road =p.

[_TomT_]

Whoa now, let's not analogize Baer's as Benz/Beemers.

Let's let the head man analogize himself:

https://www.lesbaer.com/boss45.html

https://www.lesbaer.com/Hemi572.html

Ed Brown, hmmm...diva cars/safe queen, one in a while, but rarely do you see on one at the range/road =p.

I kinda agree...

Most of the LB pics I've seen has been beaten and shot to hell. Most of the EB pics are pristine and looks like its has been sitting in a safe all year. I prefer guns that has that seasoned look so maybe I am just bias.

[Wykyd]

I was in the same position and after months of research I went with the Baer. I don't think there is a wrong choice. I love the bear but I also love my Dw, trp and colt just as much all for their own reasons. Get what feels good in tha hand!

[nahpungnome]

My PII NEEDED 500 rounds to break in. I had FTFs within the break in period, not that many, but enough to remember. After that, not a single failure. I have 3500 rounds through it now.

For some reason, when I held a Brown SF, it did nothing for me. It was very nicely finished, but holding it I didn't feel like I HAD to have it. The PII I felt the need immediately. Same when I held a Nighthawk Talon

Baer frames are larger on the grip area front to back, some people like it, some don't. Hold both to make sure that you're okay with that. Let us know which one you get.

[nahpungnome]

A Ferrari will be an SVI, not an Ed Brown. If using Mercedes for Les Baer, I would say Ed Brown = BMW.

SVI is no Ferrari...more like a F1 race car

[sammy]

Les Baer pistols have been very good to me. While I have never owned an Ed Brown I have shot a few and been less than impressed with several of them. Specifically the triggers have had lots of creep. The worst was a brand new Executive target which was surpursing.

None of them lock up like a Baer or Springfield Pro which makes them easier to operate. Ed Brown and Baer must have a different approach on how to get good accuracy.

Anyway I vote Baer.

[jeffrice6]

My Baer has never hiccuped ~ The "break in" is exaggerated.

[jonzer77]

Les Baer pistols have been very good to me. While I have never owned an Ed Brown I have shot a few and been less than impressed with several of them. Specifically the triggers have had lots of creep. The worst was a brand new Executive target which was surpursing.



None of them lock up like a Baer or Springfield Pro which makes them easier to operate. Ed Brown and Baer must have a different approach on how to get good accuracy.



Anyway I vote Baer.

I don't remember which EB I dry fired but it had an amazing trigger while my buddies LB 38 Super Long Slide had a pretty bad trigger. I'm sure that's not the norm with LB based on reviews but it does happen.


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[SimonBirch]

I like the finish on my premiere II. I handled the eb when I worked at a gunshop and wasn't crazy bout it. I will say that my lb rear sights weren't properly dehorned. They are still pretty sharp. Small fix tho but for a gun that's 1800 I expect damn near perfection when it comes to things such as dehorning.

[AFTII]

I don't remember which EB I dry fired but it had an amazing trigger while my buddies LB 38 Super Long Slide had a pretty bad trigger. I'm sure that's not the norm with LB based on reviews but it does happen.


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There are lots of ways to screw up a 1911 match trigger. Dropping the slide on an empty cylinder is one of them. Could be as simple as that. My Baers don't have the smoothest triggers, I'll give that to Wilson, but they are consistent.

I have three Baers, a TRS, a Super Tac and a Premier II with 1 1/2" guarantee. The TRS was incredibly tight. I fired the suggested 500 rnds through the TRS and had no failures until I reached about 475 rds. That was a FTF and was due to the gun being absolutely filthy. I have about 4000 rnds through it, and its still tight as a drum.

The SuperTac was exceptionally tight. It has run flawlessly since the first shot. I found that breaking it in with Microlon Assembly lube gets rid of the tightness most people ***** about. This gun is incredibly accurate.

The Premier II is the real surprise. It is not tight at all. The slide feels like it is on ball bearings. More Nighthawk than Les Baer.