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  • trackhazard
    Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 274

    APS Dynamic Pistol Rest

    Seems like an SBR to me.



    *No affiliation with the company. Just saw the video for this on MAC.
    safe - semi - full semi
  • #2
    Matt P
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 3110

    Interesting concept.
    The device is not attached to the handgun. You simply use it as a means of support that require at least one hand to maintain the device to firearm contact.
    I see no reason why this would be a sbr.
    It's clever and doubles the amount of contact with the firearm which of course will allow greater accuracy and consistency through its use.
    Practical?
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    • #3
      FIREBALL_BRIAN
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 2379

      Wouldn't want to even try it.
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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        Under CA laws...
        It + handgun = SBR



        Penal Code 16640
        (a) As used in this part, "handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
        (b) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun" from also being found to be a short-barreled rifle or a short-barreled shotgun.

        Penal Code 17170
        As used in this part, "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
        (a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
        (b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
        (c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
        (d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
        (e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

        Penal Code 17090
        As used in Sections 16530, 16640, 16650, 16660, 16870, and 17170, Sections 17720 to 17730, inclusive, Section 17740, subdivision (f) of Section 27555, Article 2 (commencing with Section 30300) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4, and Article 1 (commencing with Section 33210) of Chapter 8 of Division 10 of Title 4, "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.
        sigpic

        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          MrExel17
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2011
          • 9170

          What will they think of next?
          "Professionals practice to get it right, Operators practise to get it wrong."

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          • #6
            Matt P
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 3110

            So in other States Quiet those same laws are not in place?
            Yes I know Calif has more restrictive laws than many other states.
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            • #7
              sealocan
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2012
              • 9950

              Thank you Quiet.

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              • #8
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Originally posted by Quiet
                Under CA laws...
                It + handgun = SBR



                Penal Code 16640
                (a) As used in this part, "handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
                (b) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun" from also being found to be a short-barreled rifle or a short-barreled shotgun.

                Penal Code 17170
                As used in this part, "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
                (a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
                (b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
                (c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
                (d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
                (e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

                Penal Code 17090
                As used in Sections 16530, 16640, 16650, 16660, 16870, and 17170, Sections 17720 to 17730, inclusive, Section 17740, subdivision (f) of Section 27555, Article 2 (commencing with Section 30300) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4, and Article 1 (commencing with Section 33210) of Chapter 8 of Division 10 of Title 4, "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.
                How so? This product never attaches to the handgun. By your reasoning using a rest would trigger sbr.
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #9
                  vliberatore
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 10055

                  Originally posted by JDay
                  How so? This product never attaches to the handgun. By your reasoning using a rest would trigger sbr.
                  By the same logic that shouldering the Sig brace make the rifle a SBR
                  Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                  Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Originally posted by vliberatore
                    By the same logic that shouldering the Sig brace make the rifle a SBR
                    It is, under current BATFE determination.
                    Handgun + stabilizing brace being used as intended (strapped to forearm) = Title 1 Handgun
                    Handgun + stabilizing brace being shouldered = Title 2 SBR/SBS, requires $200 tax stamp to be legal
                    sigpic

                    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                    • #11
                      major burnout
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3860

                      Instantly turns any bad guy armed with a glock into a gold cup champion. Pretty scary.
                      Calguns- redacted more than Hillarys bengazi emails.

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                      In addition to all of the above, please note that it is illegal for you to offer an "Assault Weapon" for sale while you are in California, even if the weapon is restricted to sale out of the state.

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                      • #12
                        vliberatore
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 10055

                        Originally posted by Quiet
                        It is, under current BATFE determination.
                        Handgun + stabilizing brace being used as intended (strapped to forearm) = Title 1 Handgun
                        Handgun + stabilizing brace being shouldered = Title 2 SBR/SBS, requires $200 tax stamp to be legal
                        That was my point.

                        Since this pistol rest is designed to be fired from the shoulder, it's actually more cut and dry than the Sig brace (IMO).
                        Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                        Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                        • #13
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Originally posted by vliberatore
                          By the same logic that shouldering the Sig brace make the rifle a SBR
                          Originally posted by Quiet
                          It is, under current BATFE determination.
                          Handgun + stabilizing brace being used as intended (strapped to forearm) = Title 1 Handgun
                          Handgun + stabilizing brace being shouldered = Title 2 SBR/SBS, requires $200 tax stamp to be legal
                          Except this product is never attached to the firearm.
                          Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                          The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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