APS Dynamic Pistol Rest

[trackhazard]

Seems like an SBR to me.

http://www.usa1shot.com/

*No affiliation with the company. Just saw the video for this on MAC.

[Matt P]

Interesting concept.
The device is not attached to the handgun. You simply use it as a means of support that require at least one hand to maintain the device to firearm contact.
I see no reason why this would be a sbr.
It's clever and doubles the amount of contact with the firearm which of course will allow greater accuracy and consistency through its use.
Practical?

[FIREBALL_BRIAN]

Wouldn't want to even try it.

[Quiet]

Under CA laws...
It + handgun = SBR



Penal Code 16640
(a) As used in this part, "handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(b) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun" from also being found to be a short-barreled rifle or a short-barreled shotgun.

Penal Code 17170
As used in this part, "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
(a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
(e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

Penal Code 17090
As used in Sections 16530, 16640, 16650, 16660, 16870, and 17170, Sections 17720 to 17730, inclusive, Section 17740, subdivision (f) of Section 27555, Article 2 (commencing with Section 30300) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4, and Article 1 (commencing with Section 33210) of Chapter 8 of Division 10 of Title 4, "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

[MrExel17]

What will they think of next?

[Matt P]

So in other States Quiet those same laws are not in place?
Yes I know Calif has more restrictive laws than many other states.

[sealocan]

Thank you Quiet.

[JDay]

Under CA laws...
It + handgun = SBR



Penal Code 16640
(a) As used in this part, "handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(b) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun" from also being found to be a short-barreled rifle or a short-barreled shotgun.

Penal Code 17170
As used in this part, "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
(a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
(e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

Penal Code 17090
As used in Sections 16530, 16640, 16650, 16660, 16870, and 17170, Sections 17720 to 17730, inclusive, Section 17740, subdivision (f) of Section 27555, Article 2 (commencing with Section 30300) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4, and Article 1 (commencing with Section 33210) of Chapter 8 of Division 10 of Title 4, "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

How so? This product never attaches to the handgun. By your reasoning using a rest would trigger sbr.

[vliberatore]

How so? This product never attaches to the handgun. By your reasoning using a rest would trigger sbr.

By the same logic that shouldering the Sig brace make the rifle a SBR

[Quiet]

By the same logic that shouldering the Sig brace make the rifle a SBR

It is, under current BATFE determination.
Handgun + stabilizing brace being used as intended (strapped to forearm) = Title 1 Handgun
Handgun + stabilizing brace being shouldered = Title 2 SBR/SBS, requires $200 tax stamp to be legal

[major burnout]

Instantly turns any bad guy armed with a glock into a gold cup champion. Pretty scary.

[vliberatore]

It is, under current BATFE determination.
Handgun + stabilizing brace being used as intended (strapped to forearm) = Title 1 Handgun
Handgun + stabilizing brace being shouldered = Title 2 SBR/SBS, requires $200 tax stamp to be legal

That was my point.

Since this pistol rest is designed to be fired from the shoulder, it's actually more cut and dry than the Sig brace (IMO).

[JDay]

By the same logic that shouldering the Sig brace make the rifle a SBR

It is, under current BATFE determination.
Handgun + stabilizing brace being used as intended (strapped to forearm) = Title 1 Handgun
Handgun + stabilizing brace being shouldered = Title 2 SBR/SBS, requires $200 tax stamp to be legal

Except this product is never attached to the firearm.