MPA mini 9 options after PPT?

[dannb]

So i have thuroughly searched the threads for a clear answer but still cant find it. First, i purchased an MPA mini 9 (mac 10 clone) side cocker with the fake suppressor attached with epoxy via PPT today.

Here is what im trying to figure out as far as my best option going forward and could use some help:

1. is the epoxy method of "permanent attachment" no good? must it be welded? I know S&W used locktite to make those walther P22's ca legal but not sure if an LEO would be comfortable knowing my barrel attachment is not welded.

2. is that fake suppressor considered a "shroud"? i dont think so because it doesnt enclose the barrel it just threads onto it but ive seen other people who seem to think it is; hence, do i have a problem even if i have the fake suppressor (barrel extension) properly welded on?

3. Can i just have a bullet button installed to avoid all of the mess with the threaded barrel and have at it with all the attachments? (fake suppressor, muzzle break, thread protector, etc)

4. If i were to purchase a top cocking full upper from MPA with the NON threaded barrel, and keep the pistol in a detachable mag configuration, am i in the clear as far as it not being an AW?

any accurate insight here is greatly appreciated because im ready to pull my hair out, or just go the bullet button route.

[dvs762]

so it has a threaded muzzle...just get a thread protector...and have it pinned and welded..or buy a new top end with an unthreaded muzzle. or have the threads turned down...

http://www.usmachinegun.com/proddetail.php?prod=TP-0100

[dannb]

So a proper weld would be the way to completely avoid any trouble is what youre saying? or i can convert it to a fixed mag and keep the thread capability...or buy a new upper without the threads...

[db42]

Epoxy is "permanent". Locktite is the gold standard here, and the vast majority of guns just use locktite.

Fake suppressors are not considered a shroud. It's on the muzzle, not enclosing the barrel.

Installing a bullet button doesn't fix anything. It's a pistol, there's no advantage to a bullet button on pistols.


Try VMAC for parts. I've bought from there before and their prices are pretty good.

https://www.velocityfirearms.com/product-category/vmac9/vmac9-parts/

[dannb]

thanks for the tips. My nightmare was some LEO telling me the fake suppressor can be removed with some effort, therefore its not "permanent" but perhaps that is a far reach if it is a common solution to threaded barrels in ca

[TeeMan]

Installing a bullet button doesn't fix anything. It's a pistol, there's no advantage to a bullet button on pistols.

Somebody hasn't read the flowchart.

OP, the easiest thing is to use a bullet button. Then you can keep the threaded barrel, and you also don't need to worry about the fake can potentially being deemed a shroud or forward handgrip.

These guns came from the factory in a CA version with a bullet button and welded muzzle device, so conversion should be possible. Maybe contact MPA: they're pretty good about selling parts and may know what's needed for the bullet button mod.

[dannb]

thank you, i figured the bullet button install would be a clear route while also giving me options for attachments if i want them. I will contact MPA again, i called today but they seemed to be confusing my situation with SSE requirements.

[Eddie1965]

I got a new upper for mine:

[supermario]

In my opinion, its not worth having a bulletbutton just to have removable barrel accessories. If you like the fake cans, just keep it on. If you want one with a short barrel, order another upper in that configuration. The mac style pistols are cool because you can have the detachable mags.

If your gonna put a bullet button/maglock, you may as well order the carbine upper kit and stock and make it into a cool carbine. As long as you keep it permanently as a rifle your good to go. The Mac platform is very simple and reliable with tons of aftermarket parts.

[supermario]

To Eddie1965,

Did you have the upper with compensator on it before? If so how is the recoil/muzzle rise without it?

I think they look way cooler with the short barrel and no muzzle device.

[JTROKS]

Depending on the bullet button design I would rather go that route. No matter what you're stuck with a 10 round magazine anyway. I might as well enjoy having all the other "evil features" they call them.

[dannb]

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You guys make some valid points....I also like some of the extras available from usmachinegun like the two stage parkerized fake suppressor but yeah looks like i can go either way with this. As someone had said yesterday the fake suppressor alone could be open to interpretation as far as it being a forward grip and the only way of avoiding that mess is to get a bullet button...I wondered if that's why MPA never made any CA versions with the fake suppressor, they only made ones with the welded muzzle break.

[TeeMan]

Well, uppers are cheap, and it's pretty easy on this gun to swap in the mag release. I have the welded upper I use with the mag release and the threaded one I use with the bullet button.

Honestly I'm pretty sure this is just a "fun gun" for most folks, so not really an issue to keep it with a bullet button in that case. Not like you need to do rapid mag swaps shooting paper.