Springfield Armory Custom Shop......finishes on SS 1911's

[pablo7]

Can the Springfield Custom Shop put a new finish on a SS 1911, Like change the color to a blued or their armory kote matte finish?


How well would it take since it's stainless steel not carbon steel?

Would I be better off buying a Range Officer 9mm?

Looking to buy a 9mm LT model but stainless is the only roster option. I like it but I know it'll show scrathes especially on the flats real quick.


THX.

[Thanatos2203]

Probably be better suited to just have it cerakoted in the color that you want. I am not too familiar with the "armory kote", but if you are here in LA there are a bunch of places to get a traditional cerakote job done. Bluing is such an inferior finish I would not go in that direction.

[pablo7]

Probably be better suited to just have it cerakoted in the color that you want. I am not too familiar with the "armory kote", but if you are here in LA there are a bunch of places to get a traditional cerakote job done. Bluing is such an inferior finish I would not go in that direction.

THX, having it cerakoted had not occurred to me, I know a local authorized place. I wonder how it holds up on SS....time for some googling.

[Fishslayer]

Traditional blueing is actually a kind of rust, so on stainless maybe not so good.

Why not just sell the SS & buy a carbon steel one?

[pablo7]

Traditional blueing is actually a kind of rust, so on stainless maybe not so good.

Why not just sell the SS & buy a carbon steel one?

If the RO was on roster for sure....don't have either yet.

[pablo7]

Anybody else have any experience with refinishing a SS 1911?

[nahpungnome]

I had my Sig stainless re-bead blasted. Came out great, had it done at Sig though while it was getting some other work done.

[trigger945]

OP, contact Rob from Alchemy Custom. I believe coating a stainless steel gun can be done. At least one of his finished products was a stainless steel 1911 that now currently sports a two-tone look. Hope this helps.

[Chapped Hide]

Just about any spray on, baked finish can be applied.to stainless. Check out the options.and pricing.from SACS.

[CK_32]

IIRC tons of guys have added army and other similar coating on their SS 1911's.

I didn't like SS guns and asked there if I could change the loaded from SS to coated. Then to be educated that SS is actually not as tough as the other steel they use in their blued guns.

But yes it's possible, how? Not sure. Gatta ask the 1911 forum guys. Look at "hard hate coating". When I asked that seemed to be the coating of all coatings. Supposidly a gunsmith some where made his own coating that was "the best around".

[epwegmann]

Sounds like you might be talking about Serven's Hard Hat treatment. If you are, it is supposed to be a very top notch service, although I don't know if it can be done to SS.

IIRC tons of guys have added army and other similar coating on their SS 1911's.

I didn't like SS guns and asked there if I could change the loaded from SS to coated. Then to be educated that SS is actually not as tough as the other steel they use in their blued guns.

But yes it's possible, how? Not sure. Gatta ask the 1911 forum guys. Look at "hard hate coating". When I asked that seemed to be the coating of all coatings. Supposidly a gunsmith some where made his own coating that was "the best around".

[hadjin]

Here ya go...

"Introducing the Severns Custom Hard Hat treatment. Unlike conventional, so called "high tech" coatings that last about as long as your paycheck, Hard Hat is the real deal. A true, durable alternative for demanding users who need a dark weapon. Hard Hat is NOT a coating. It is a sophisticated, labor intensive treatment process that both hardens and chemically alters the surface of the metal, turning your carbon steel or stainless steel firearm a beautiful, yet unbelievably tough, jet black in the process."

[FreshTapCoke]

My SA 1911 is the loaded black stainless version from many years back. I ran it as my IDPA gun; the only wear to the black was along the slide rail, and any point where it contacted my holster. (lots of dust and sand) Front strap never had any wear.

I sent it back to SA and had them re-finish it to factory black stainless finish, so they definitely have something that will hold to stainless.

[pablo7]

If only there was some way you could contact them and ask...

Oh well, I guess that is just not possible.

THX captain obvious.

IIRC tons of guys have added army and other similar coating on their SS 1911's.

I didn't like SS guns and asked there if I could change the loaded from SS to coated. Then to be educated that SS is actually not as tough as the other steel they use in their blued guns.

But yes it's possible, how? Not sure. Gatta ask the 1911 forum guys. Look at "hard hate coating". When I asked that seemed to be the coating of all coatings. Supposidly a gunsmith some where made his own coating that was "the best around".

THX...yes that's what I've read about carbon steel being tougher.

Sounds like you might be talking about Serven's Hard Hat treatment. If you are, it is supposed to be a very top notch service, although I don't know if it can be done to SS.

Here ya go...

"Introducing the Severns Custom Hard Hat treatment. Unlike conventional, so called "high tech" coatings that last about as long as your paycheck, Hard Hat is the real deal. A true, durable alternative for demanding users who need a dark weapon. Hard Hat is NOT a coating. It is a sophisticated, labor intensive treatment process that both hardens and chemically alters the surface of the metal, turning your carbon steel or stainless steel firearm a beautiful, yet unbelievably tough, jet black in the process."

THX.

My SA 1911 is the loaded black stainless version from many years back. I ran it as my IDPA gun; the only wear to the black was along the slide rail, and any point where it contacted my holster. (lots of dust and sand) Front strap never had any wear.

I sent it back to SA and had them re-finish it to factory black stainless finish, so they definitely have something that will hold to stainless.

I just had my brand new Springfield Loaded 1911 9mm cerakoted "graphite black."

I'm not a fan of Stainless Steel so it went straight to Cerakote when I picked it up. Turned out amazing. The hardness of the Graphite Black cerakote was also twice as much as the other black option. I got mine done through Gunfighter Tactical in San Diego.

THX...pics?



Here's the SACS price list in case anyone is curious, I'm sure it's been posted before.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1911CustomWorksheet_1.pdf

[tophatjones]

Here ya go...

"Introducing the Severns Custom Hard Hat treatment. Unlike conventional, so called "high tech" coatings that last about as long as your paycheck, Hard Hat is the real deal. A true, durable alternative for demanding users who need a dark weapon. Hard Hat is NOT a coating. It is a sophisticated, labor intensive treatment process that both hardens and chemically alters the surface of the metal, turning your carbon steel or stainless steel firearm a beautiful, yet unbelievably tough, jet black in the process."

Just speculation on my part, but from everything I've read, the hard hat is just melonite with some kind of coating on top of that. I don't recommend having SS melonited, because it actually lowers the corrosion resistance of the stainless (stainless can only do QP, not QPQ like carbon steel). Of course, the coating should prevent rust until it wears, but so does any type of epoxy paint or cerokote coating, even without the melonite.