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  • kurby09
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 470

    SA 1911 loaded 9mm trigger work

    Ok, i have a SA 1911 loaded in 9mm and am looking to either do some trigger work or purchase a trigger kit. Im trying to get the trigger weight down to atleast 3 1/2 pounds. Preferably down to 3lbs. What are some suggestions and or drop in kits that'll help me achieve this?
  • #2
    E92335i
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 2937

    Cylinder and Slide sear spring.

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    • #3
      Chief-7700
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      • May 2008
      • 3382



      I have these in all my 1911s

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      • #4
        keith1911
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 1297

        I replaced all my springs in my SA 1911 9mm Target with Wilson ones and the trigger weight did go down.

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          JTROKS
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2007
          • 13093

          Be adviced when replacing the hammer and sear may require having the safety refitted or replaced. If you're not familiar how those parts interact together, better seek a 1911 gunsmith.

          I got my LT and RO both in 9mm to 2.5 lbs safely and reliable with the stock parts. If you want to go lower you'll need some A6 tool steel parts.
          Last edited by JTROKS; 06-10-2015, 10:35 AM.
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            dfletcher
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            • Dec 2006
            • 14806

            Originally posted by kurby09
            Ok, i have a SA 1911 loaded in 9mm and am looking to either do some trigger work or purchase a trigger kit. Im trying to get the trigger weight down to atleast 3 1/2 pounds. Preferably down to 3lbs. What are some suggestions and or drop in kits that'll help me achieve this?
            I picked up a SA Loaded Target in 9mm a few months back. The trigger was long & creepy. Using a jig & stoning the sear notch, some "wet 'n dry" paper on the sear too made it clean & crisp. As mentioned some 1911 parts are interdependent, replace one & you may need to replace others.

            Switching out springs may give a lighter feel, but if there's roughness & creep you'll end up with a lighter pull .... that still has roughness & creep. And if you later go to a finer sear engagement the softer springs may not quite prevent hammer follow.

            I may be mistaken, but I think SA will do trigger work on the pistol if you send it to them. There's nothing wrong with the parts, I'd expect. Just that they weren't given the best finishing possible.

            Also, there's nothing wrong with learning how to do it yourself. Lots of YouTube videos out there. Something I didn't have in the 70's when I 1st started tinkering. Still, be prepared if you learn on your own - have an extra hammer, sear and thumb safety ready ....
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              kurby09
              Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 470

              Im fairly familiar with the platform and the mechanics of it all, I just havent done any work before on one though. A little hesitant. I was looking into getting a drop in trigger to adjust the pre and over travel then do some polishing and bending of the disconnect spring. looking into the sear i was wondering what parts of it can be taken down or polished and what should i be careful with in making sure i don't take to much off.

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                PseudoTsuga
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 803

                Have you already deleted the ILS?
                That helped immeasurably on my loaded lw.
                I went with a 19lb Wolff spring and "boosted the hammer"about twenty times afterward and now it's exactly how I want it.

                Replacing and Modifying the ILS Mainspring housing in a 1911 Springfield Loaded. There is a lot of info out there on this subject and I wanted to update and consolidate that info into one easy to use place. First let me start by saying, there are many combinations of parts that will work -...
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                • #9
                  JTROKS
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13093

                  If that's the case get one of C&S trigger kits. Just remember about the safety.
                  The wise man said just find your place
                  In the eye of the storm
                  Seek the roses along the way
                  Just beware of the thorns...
                  K. Meine

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                  • #10
                    rdtompki
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 773

                    We had "trigger jobs" done on three of our SA 9mm 1911 Loaded. All our between 3-1/4 and 3-1/2 lbs, this without parts replacement. Find a gunsmith who knows what he's doing with 1911s.

                    Don Lazzarini (DLG Enterprises) did our work. He's great to work with andif you let him know what you need and that your driving from a distance he will probably do the work while you wait. You can watch and he won't even charge more.

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                    • #11
                      lc*y
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 494

                      Originally posted by dfletcher
                      I picked up a SA Loaded Target in 9mm a few months back. The trigger was long & creepy. Using a jig & stoning the sear notch, some "wet 'n dry" paper on the sear too made it clean & crisp. As mentioned some 1911 parts are interdependent, replace one & you may need to replace others.

                      Switching out springs may give a lighter feel, but if there's roughness & creep you'll end up with a lighter pull .... that still has roughness & creep. And if you later go to a finer sear engagement the softer springs may not quite prevent hammer follow.

                      I may be mistaken, but I think SA will do trigger work on the pistol if you send it to them. There's nothing wrong with the parts, I'd expect. Just that they weren't given the best finishing possible.

                      Also, there's nothing wrong with learning how to do it yourself. Lots of YouTube videos out there. Something I didn't have in the 70's when I 1st started tinkering. Still, be prepared if you learn on your own - have an extra hammer, sear and thumb safety ready ....
                      it can be done diy, fairly easy. I got mine to 4lbs. after a few hundred rds, it lowered below 4lbs. now it is very smooth and reliable
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                      • #12
                        kurby09
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 470

                        Originally posted by PseudoTsuga
                        Have you already deleted the ILS?
                        That helped immeasurably on my loaded lw.
                        I went with a 19lb Wolff spring and "boosted the hammer"about twenty times afterward and now it's exactly how I want it.



                        http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=334332
                        What is the ILS? still new to the platform and haven't come across what an ILS is yet till now.

                        Originally posted by rdtompki
                        We had "trigger jobs" done on three of our SA 9mm 1911 Loaded. All our between 3-1/4 and 3-1/2 lbs, this without parts replacement. Find a gunsmith who knows what he's doing with 1911s.

                        Don Lazzarini (DLG Enterprises) did our work. He's great to work with andif you let him know what you need and that your driving from a distance he will probably do the work while you wait. You can watch and he won't even charge more.
                        Im actually traveling this weekend down south. How much was his work for your trigger jobs?

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                        • #13
                          PseudoTsuga
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 803

                          Originally posted by kurby09
                          What is the ILS? still new to the platform and haven't come across what an ILS is yet till now.


                          Im actually traveling this weekend down south. How much was his work for your trigger jobs?
                          It's the "Integral Locking System" that Springfield uses. You'll notice two tiny holes in a small recessed disc on your mainspring housing. The reason people usually get rid of it, is they want to run standard parts so they can tune the gun in the traditional ways (ie experimenting with different weight mainsprings for instance).
                          Read that thread I linked. It will explain a lot.
                          "Show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy."
                          -F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                          • #14
                            RR.44
                            CGSSA Leader
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1933

                            How many rounds have you put through it? I've put just about 600 rounds through mine and it is smoothing out very nicely, I'm sure it'll get even better the more I shoot it.
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