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  • SoCal50Lover
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1007

    What constitutes a C&R?

    Like I have an old Mossberg .22. I've had it 27 years and I inhereted it from my Grandfather. I have not pulled it out in awhile but I think I will. It loads 12 - 14 rounds thru the stock. I think my grandfather got it in the 60's or 70's.

    How can I find out what it's worth or some kind of a value. It has no sentimental value to me. Hell if I was old enough to know better I probably would have capped that old man with it. He was an abuser.
    Joe,
    Garden Grove, Ca. 92840
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    SoCal50Lover
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1007

    It says Model 151K
    Joe,
    Garden Grove, Ca. 92840

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    • #3
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by ATF
      WHAT ARE CURIOS OR RELICS?
      As set out in the regulations (27 CFR 178.11), curios or relics include firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

      1.) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;
      2.) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
      3.) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.
      Those are the regs that define what a C&R is. So, if your specific Mossberg was made more than 50 years ago, it is automatically C&R as a relic. Or, it would need to be listed in the C&R lists as a curio.

      Here is the link to the C&R lists, http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/index.htm



      Now, what your mossberg is worth, I dunno.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        Moonclip
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2004
        • 4390

        I may be interested in this gun if it is the model with the fold down fore grip, let me know.
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        7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
        9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
        .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
        .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
        20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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