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  • JetTheTerror
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 58

    Sig 938/Crossbreed Full Review

    The Sig Sauer 938 Scorpion is by far one of my favorite pistols for use as a every day carry pistol. Its lightweight, accurate, reliable, comes with trijicon night sights, has the same great 1911 feel along with the "battery of arms" I grew up with, the external safety, the trigger, and not to mention the overall size of the pistol.

    Weighs in at 16oz, which is lighter than your LC9 and many others. With enough practice you can be devastatingly accurate with this little 3" barrel bug gun as you ever were with your other compact sized pistol. Personally when I achieved consistent accuracy with the Sig 938 it greatly improved my full size pistol shooting because with the little bug gun if you slack on your fundamentals it shows tremendously.

    Some people cry saying they "don't wanna get into a pinch and forget to flick the safety off." You have already lost the fight. I don't mean to infringe on great shooters before me but they always taught me "It is your responsibility to be ready for the fight! We don't choose the time or place." To me flicking the saftey off as I present has become muscle memory. Its up to you!

    The trijicon sights are perfect for this pistol. Sharp, clear, and yes they glow at night, which makes it great to find on your night stand in the dark.

    The trigger is crisp. Not a lightweight trigger but more than adequate for accurate shots, without the fear of negligent discharging.

    The size is by far one of the smallest 9mm semi-auto pistols I could find that I would trust my life to. Sure you got your pistol for $2-350 but it double feeds and fails to extract when you limp wrist it. Can you put a price on your life? If I found something better I would have gotten it.




    With a great pistol you must have a great holster! I was turned onto Crossbreed Holsters by an old Warfighter brother of mine. So from the first day I owned the Sig 938 it was mated with a Super tuck Crossbreed holster. Upon recieving it the retention is perfect with the combination of kydex and the comfort of leather. I applied "Leather CPR" that my family has used on saddles, bridles, and just about anything leather for years. After a good healthy coat, let it dry a little bit and strap it on and wear the snot out of it! I reapplied the leather CPR 2 or 3 more times through out the first 2 weeks of using it to really soften the leather and help it mold to my body. After using it religiously, along with multiple range trips it was absolutley perfect! It was perfect and suitable for use sense day 1, but the best comparason I can come up with is there is nothng like a broke in leather glove. As a disciplined and educated shooter you never forget you have your pistol on you, but with this holster when its broken in it is absolutley perfect to the point were you wont even notice its there. (Focus: guys I am merely speaking of the comfort level this holster vs having a hard kydex holster pressed against your skin 10-12hrs a day.)


    After wearing and using this holster with my Sig 938 for over a year straight. It still has perfect retention. Like all kydex holsters it does wear on the firearm. By no means do I baby my firearm. Between all the dryfire practice, range trips, IDPA matchs, trainning courses and every day carry it gets alot of holstering and unholstering. So I expect wear from this level of use. It definatly isnt a safe queen.
    Slowly but surely I started to notice some excessive wear on the side of the slide. To the point of noticeably lettering that has been worn into the factory coating.


    I am totally okay with not having a mint conditon paint job. But having "Patent N0." and some other "NG" lettering wear into my slide was not okay with me. On the inisde of the holster there was extruded markings that caused the damage. So I emailed crossbreed with photos and an explanation of the situation and I recieved a response that day. Three days later there was a brand new Crossbreed holster on my door step. With the source of the problem no longer present inside the holster!

    Before the onslaught of pictures. I wanna make clear that how Crossbreed holsters handled themselves and instantly corrected the problem with out any run around or hassle. Along with the quality of their products. They have earned my business for life! Even before this I recommended them to any and all of my friends and family. If you carry Inside the waist band for work, ccw, or whatever your need to carry is, this will not let you down.



    and here are a few more of the original holster.[URL=http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/JetTheTerror/media/Mobile Uploads/20150509_112744-1_zpsnl9r3e5z.jpg.html]
    Last edited by JetTheTerror; 05-13-2015, 12:58 AM.
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    BoJackUSMC
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 7091

    Great review

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    • #3
      BoJackUSMC
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2010
      • 7091

      Hope I get my minituck soon, ordered it last week.

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      • #4
        GOLDEN GUN
        Banned
        • Dec 2012
        • 2326

        Nice! Iv got the p238 in scorpion and I love it... Light smallest and best quality little carry gun in the world.. Yes it's a .380 but I can wear it with swim shorts and not even feel it

        The .938 isn't mich bigger!! I wish I had both!! Nice gun

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        • #5
          Tall Tree
          Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 319

          Wow. I have a 938 and use crossbreed holsters. SPOT ON Review.

          I muscle memorized thumbs up, thumbs down on draw...even though I mostly carry a da/sa, no safety.

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          • #6
            JetTheTerror
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 58

            @golden gun: the 238 is a little smaller and a little lighter but still the same firearm. I was very tempted to get the 238 but the deciding factor for me, I have nothing else that shoots .380 so I couldn't justify having to buy the ammo. It is nice having the "swim trunks" capability!

            @tall tree that's what it's about keep training, and stay up on your dry fire practice from the concealed position. because clearing the shirt, getting a good purchase on the pistol, presenting, disengaging the saftey and a good trigger squeeze is alot to go wrong.

            Not to advertise but my favorite drill is the Travis Haley "Venti" drill. You can download it for free on his website and print the target out at home then watch his video on it. I have definatly improved by using his Venti drill.https://youtu.be/Zi5eZqc9H7I
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            • #7
              ruddogg
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 2581

              +1 on Crossbreed, I edc/ccw my PPQ or PPS in a SuperTuck everyday. I thought I was a leather guy, I have Milt Sparks VM2's for them too, but I end up using the SuperTucks more often than the VM2s.

              btw - just got the email this morning, they have a 20% off for LEO sale going on right now.

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              • #8
                Pipe Smoker
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 92

                Congrats on your P938. I have a suggestion though. I had SIG SAUER black checkered G10 grips on my P238. They're made by Hogue but, like the grips on yours, had the SIG SAUER logo. My middle finger (the strongest grip finger) fell right on the smooth logo.

                I replaced those grips with black checkered G10 grips directly from Hogue. They're fully checkered (no logo) and I find the grip traction to be significantly better.

                I love the little P238. It's well designed and nicely finished, inside and out. And it's SAO, like all the pistols I shoot regularly.

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                • #9
                  liberty47
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1566

                  Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                  I took a class with a company called Shivworks. Their ECQC course is very well respected (Google "Shivworks AAR" for different peoples review from across the country). It's 2 1/2 days of learning to fight with a gun when they're right up on you. The instructor said these hybrid type holsters repeatedly fail in his classes, and he strongly suggested we forgo them.

                  I'd recommend anyone serious about concealed carry to take the class. Hours of force on force training with fellow students is an eye opener you won't get in the CCW class you took. There's one in LA in September.

                  did they tell you why the repeatedly fail? I have a n82 holster but I would say it falls into same category as the crossbreed.

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                  • #10
                    JetTheTerror
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 58

                    Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                    I took a class with a company called Shivworks. Their ECQC course is very well respected (Google "Shivworks AAR" for different peoples review from across the country). It's 2 1/2 days of learning to fight with a gun when they're right up on you. The instructor said these hybrid type holsters repeatedly fail in his classes, and he strongly suggested we forgo them.

                    I'd recommend anyone serious about concealed carry to take the class. Hours of force on force training with fellow students is an eye opener you won't get in the CCW class you took. There's one in LA in September.

                    Everyone has their own opinion. But it's what you can prove that makes the difference between fact, and make believe trolls! With out a doubt leather holsters can fail. Pictures to prove how and why.

                    A well worn in leather holster from a educated religious concealed carrier. While holstering in his car, the leather caught on the trigger and discharged. He had unfortunately become complacent and failed to see a possible issue by carrying a striker fire in a overly worn out leather holster. It can happen to any of us, if we don't inspect, replace and maintain our gear. Thankfully he wasn't critically wounded. *photos from the bo's at ITS Tatical*





                    I constantly try to improve myself by attending various courses and competitions. All while using the crossbreed. I also attend IDPA matchs regularly using the 938 crossbreed or my 1911 officer crossbreed. Not once have I ever had a "failure" judging by your lack of description on what failed. You listened to someone that deals with alot of inexperienced shooters and see's tons of "interesting" carry holsters. Which most of us can agree on the amount of crap holsters out there, that look good behind a computer scree. But are dangerous to yourself and those around you. I heard an instructor same the sa me speel at a course once. He had never seen or used the newer hybrid kydex/leather holster. But his opinion was based on anything not main stream from his experience was bad. Coming from the guy carrying a Blackhawk push button holster..... I didn't value his opinion. Instead I showed him how well my holster performed. Words are cheap! Show me! Never cease to ask why and form your own opinion.

                    The crossbreed NEVER failed me. I just happen to get one that had extruded markings inisde of it that caused wear. But it always kept retention and allowed me to achieve a full purchase and draw successfully as long as I did my part.

                    Don't believe me. Please come to the next IDPA match. So you can watch for this" inevitable failure". But like every day before you will be rudely disappointed.
                    Last edited by JetTheTerror; 05-14-2015, 4:16 PM.
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                    • #11
                      JetTheTerror
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 58

                      Originally posted by Pipe Smoker
                      Congrats on your P938. I have a suggestion though. I had SIG SAUER black checkered G10 grips on my P238. They're made by Hogue but, like the grips on yours, had the SIG SAUER logo. My middle finger (the strongest grip finger) fell right on the smooth logo.

                      I replaced those grips with black checkered G10 grips directly from Hogue. They're fully checkered (no logo) and I find the grip traction to be significantly better.

                      I love the little P238. It's well designed and nicely finished, inside and out. And it's SAO, like all the pistols I shoot regularly.
                      Thanks for the heads up. I have not come across that issue. Mine is slightly larger than yours, so it might allow for me to get a different grip then you..... Soundo like a bad locker room argument. As you are obviously aware grip is king with these little guys. Good info about the grips. I could definitely see slippage happening over the logo.
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                      • #12
                        Aldemar
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 4707

                        One of the reasons I got my 938 SAS was that the controls (with the exception of no grip safety) are the same as a 1911. It's second nature for me to engage/disengage the thumb safety when drawing or re-holstering.

                        I carry mine in a Milt Sparks Summer Special 2....expensive, but probably the most comfortable holsters I have used.
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                        • #13
                          ptgarcia
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 744

                          I have a Crossbreed SuperTuck for my 3" 1911 and like it very much. Its very well made and I can't see why it would be more susceptible to breaking than any other kydex holster.

                          One thing, though, I wouldn't recommend any conditioners be applied to any leather holster. You may be able to get away with it on a hybrid like the SuperTuck, but softening the leather on a full leather holster is a sure way to ruin it.
                          Paul

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                          • #14
                            JetTheTerror
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 58

                            Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                            I think it was that they come separated from the wearer easily during gun grabs/retention cycles.
                            Thinking similar to those kydex paddle holsters How they break off during a gun grab?
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