Permanently attaching to threaded barrel?

[gose]

I have a SIG 210-5 with the 6" threaded barrel (the barrel is still back in Sweden) and I was thinking of getting the barrel into the lovely state of California. However, I can't decide if I should "unthread" or permanently attach the custom barrel weight I have for it. Is glue considered permanent, or does it have to be welded or soldered in place?

I don't like the idea of permanently attaching it, since cleaning will be a pita, but destroying the barrel doesn't feel too good either.

If glue is enough I'll probably go that route, since I have a few other 210s to shoot, if not I'll probably "destroy" it instead and get a new barrel once I move to a free state...

[PistolKidd]

i think they'll require you to 'weld' it..

I dont wanna advocate anything 'questionable'.. but I would look for another barrel (if possible) and simply bring in the original and not use it in the event that you leave the state..

[gose]

i think they'll require you to 'weld' it..

I dont wanna advocate anything 'questionable'.. but I would look for another barrel (if possible) and simply bring in the original and not use it in the event that you leave the state..

Well, Ive got four 210s and an extra barrel + slide in the state already and Im probably picking up a couple barrels extra + a .22 conv kit when I go home next time

I just wanted to move all my stuff into the state...

[LCAZES]

When we had our USPSA open guns built, the comps were welded onto all 3 of them. This is in my opinion the safest way to go. YMMV

[gose]

Hmm... ok, that kinda sucks.

What would you guys do/recommend, weld or remove the threads?

[five.five-six]

I had mine pinned and a litle tack weild holding it in place, it can be un done if you want

[onley11]

From what I understand, the atf thinks that green needs a propane torch to get it off locktite is permanant.

And as is obvious from the lower debacle, the cadoj has absolutely no clue what permanant is, and thinks that 58 da's might know, but they don't so they refer you to your lawyer, who will need something solid from the cadoj who has absolutely no clue what permanant is, and thinks that 58 da's might know, but they don't so they refer you to your lawyer, who will need something solid from the cadoj who has absolutely no clue what permanant is, and thinks that 58 da's might know, but they don't so they refer you to your lawyer, who will need something solid from the cadoj who has absolutely no clue what permanant is, and thinks that 58 da's might know, but they ...


Threaded barrels aren't illegal, threaded barrels on pistols are illegal. I'd weld or silver solder(high temp) the weight on before I cut off the threads. If I was a man of the world planning on moving to a free state, I'd soak it in clp and put it in a ziplock bag somewhere away from where I put my pistols.

[MotoGuy]

S&W uses red locktite on the California Edition Walther P22 to fix the nut on the barrel, the DOJ doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

[onley11]

Nice, any documentation?(didja see it, where did you read it, etc.)

Bill?

[monkey]

S&W uses red locktite on the California Edition Walther P22 to fix the nut on the barrel, the DOJ doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

DOJ follows ATF spec on "permanent." Adhesives do not qualify as they can all be broken with an appropriate-length breaker bar, even Rocksett. Green loctite might need heat to safely and cleanly remove, but a 4 or 5 foot breaker bar will crack it immediately. Silver solder, weld or blind pin are the ATF approved methods.

If The Walthers truly use only Loctite, then something is amiss. Loctite does not qualify. Remember too that Walther P22 with the threaded barrel were approved for sale WITH the threaded barrel before DOJ saw their mistake. This might be a compromise fix for their embarrasing oversight. It's definitely not per regulation to use adhesives to qualify as non-threaded.

[gose]

AFAIK, CA doesnt have constructive possession, so would it be legal to import the barrel and just keep it in my safe and not put it into the gun?

[MotoGuy]

If The Walthers truly use only Loctite, then something is amiss. Loctite does not qualify.

Maybe Walther can use loctite because the nut is smooth. You would have to use vice grips to grap the nut, and probally can't get enough grip to break the red locktite on such a small nut. But, I have heard that if you heat the nut with a touch until the locktite bubbles out, you can turn the nut off by hand.

[gose]

I called the DOJ to verify things, but the woman I spoke to admitted that she was new and would have someone else call me next week.

However, the ATF confirmed that it was ok to import, so the Form 6 is going in tomorrow!

No, I really doubt it would be possible to attach something to the threads and have it go through the slide. There isn't enough room.

[Pablo]

What about silver solder? The method is approved by the BATF and the best part is that it's reversible!

[gose]

Just spoke to the DOJ.
Permanent == irreversible, so loctite/epoxy/silver solder is out of the question...

Weld or remove threads.