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  • Maddog5150
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    • Feb 2006
    • 10526

    356tsw?

    Looked on my shelf today at work and saw about six boxes of 356tsw corbon. 124gr 1450 fps. Just a 9mm but never seen it stated like that on the box. Anyone know anyting about 356tsw?
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    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Was a "super 9mm" caliber for some S&W Performance Center pistols.
    Suppose to compete with the .38Super, 9x21mm and 9x23mm competition pistols.
    Didn't really pan out.
    Pretty much, .356TSW ended up with the same fate as the .41AE.
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    • #3
      liketoshoot
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3810

      Found this on "THR": http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i...p/t-23929.html


      And this old listing on GB for a pistola; http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976778435.htm
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      • #4
        Moonclip
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2004
        • 4390

        There was a S&W revolver chambered for it.
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        • #5
          Exiledviking
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1460

          Originally posted by Maddog5150
          Looked on my shelf today at work and saw about six boxes of 356tsw corbon. 124gr 1450 fps. Just a 9mm but never seen it stated like that on the box. Anyone know anyting about 356tsw?
          What is the asking price per box? Location?
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          - John Lott -

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          • #6
            buffybuster
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2615

            356TSW a good cartridge introduced at the wrong time. This is basically a 9x21.5mm. It was created by S&W during the height of the IPSC racegun period (late 80's-early 90's). As I understand it, S&W and USPSA had some tacit agreement to have S&W develop a Major9 cartridge (when major was 175PF) that would fit in the shorter 9mm frames. Federal made the initial ammunition which was a 147gr@1220fps and S&W made the initial guns Super9 through the Perf Ctr. The whole thing was a bust because by the time the guns/ammo came out IPSC Unlimited went to fullsize frame 38Super/38TJ with extended mags that held 20rds. The 356TSW guns weren't the hot setup because they were 16-17rds and also based on the 3rd gen S&W autos with a slide mounted safety. So, the 356TSW couldn't find a niche in Unlimited and Limited closed up when the 40cal rule went into effect. That put the 356TSW out in the cold and there was some harsh feelings between S&W and USPSA about that. After major PF was dropped to 165, then hot loaded 9x19 could make that and it really made the 356TSW irrelavant in competition.

            I always regret that S&W didn't promote the 356TSW in the selfdefense market. A precursor to the 357Sig. It would have been nice to have a 5906/4 size pistol with 16rds of 125gr/1400fps. But by this time, S&W is promoting their 40SW in that market and they didn't want to create competition for themselves. Nevertheless the 356TSW is a well designed cartridge, much like the 9x23Win, designed for high pressures in mind. Last time I checked, Starline still made brass and the Corbon loads used Starline brass. It's not fair to compare the 356TSW to the 9x23Win or any other full-length cartridge, but for it's size it was quite a performer.
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