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  • Kestryll
    Head Janitor
    • Oct 2005
    • 21582

    1911 Extraction Problem W/Pics

    I went to the range last night and had continuous failure to eject jams.
    I'm guessing it is an extractor problem but before picking up a new part I figured I'd ask here.

    So does this look like an extractor issue or should I be looking for another culprit?

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  • #2
    Son of BAR7
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 323

    would need a detail of the extractor and the case rim to say. Looks like the extractor is just letting go of the case rim, but if the extractor is not worn, not likely the problem. Look for deformation or witness marks on the case rim. if there is only light marking, the extractor is not getting a good grip (if any) on the case. If there are deep marks, the case may be getting hung up in the chamber.
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    • #3
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11756

      Extractor is not working, assuming you have made no other changes likes mags, mag catch, etc.
      These changes can sometimes bump a round off the extractor if the "ride height" of the top round in the mag is too high.

      You know where I live if you want some help.

      Oh, and there's no basement here.

      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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      • #4
        ARDude
        Veteran Member
        • May 2006
        • 2723

        My SA 1911 Mil Spec did that after many 1000's of rounds thru it.
        Replaced the original SA extractor with a Wilson Combat bullet proof extractor.
        Dropped in and did not need to adjust it.
        Have run about 2000 rounds with new extractor with no issues.
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        • #5
          The Gleam
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 12089

          Oh man. Such opportunity. Trying to resist.... website owner.... Chief Biggun Hammer..... must... not... don't....


          "You're limp-wristing it."


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          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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          • #6
            tophatjones
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 1539

            A few quick and easy things to check:
            1) Ammo issue? Does this happen only with this lot of ammo, is the ammo sized correctly?
            2) Chamber clean? Gunk in the chamber can prevent extraction.
            3) Extractor tension? This needs to be checked periodically, there are many online sources that show how.
            4) Check the extractor hook itself, does it look worn out anywhere?

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            • #7
              ojisan
              Agent 86
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2008
              • 11756

              Originally posted by The Gleam
              Oh man. Such opportunity. Trying to resist.... website owner.... Chief Biggun Hammer..... must... not... don't....


              "You're limp-wristing it."



              Your new screen name will be "Runs With Scissors" (if you're lucky, could be much worse).



              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
              I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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              • #8
                AeroEngi
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 2887

                Originally posted by tophatjones
                A few quick and easy things to check:
                1) Ammo issue? Does this happen only with this lot of ammo, is the ammo sized correctly?
                2) Chamber clean? Gunk in the chamber can prevent extraction.
                3) Extractor tension? This needs to be checked periodically, there are many online sources that show how.
                4) Check the extractor hook itself, does it look worn out anywhere?
                This...

                Plus make sure the extractor hook and extractor channel are clean. How often do you take the extractor out and clean the channel?
                Last edited by AeroEngi; 04-29-2015, 8:05 PM.

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                • #9
                  cannon
                  In Memoriam
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 8589

                  If you are not limp wristing. Do you see extractor marks on the shell casing?

                  Inspect the claw on the extractor. Is the claw damaged? If so replace it.

                  If it is not damaged. Using your hands. Bend the claw inwards.
                  ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                  • #10
                    cindynles
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2806

                    Most likely extractor tension.

                    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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                    • #11
                      perpetual otter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 5093

                      It's cuz it's a Rock Island...

                      I provide opinions...
                      At a rapid rate.

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                      • #12
                        Army
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3915

                        Don't try to fix, or bend it, if you don't know how to properly.

                        Replacing the extractor will stop this. I 2nd the Wilson Bullet-Proof extractor. Never replace it again.
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                        • #13
                          tbc
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 5955

                          1911 Extraction Problem W/Pics

                          I had the exact same experience with my 1911 Kimber 9mm. I meant exactly. I also blamed the extractor because it was just making a whole lot if sense. I tuned the extractor but it didn't help. Then one day I changed the Kimber mags to Tripp Cobra mags. Lo and behold, I've not experienced a single jam that day forward.
                          Last edited by tbc; 04-29-2015, 10:23 PM.

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                          • #14
                            cannon
                            In Memoriam
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 8589

                            Originally posted by Army
                            Don't try to fix, or bend it, if you don't know how to properly.
                            Not a hard thing to learn and if everything goes wrong. You just buy another extractor.
                            ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                            • #15
                              bountyhunter
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3423

                              Originally posted by tophatjones
                              A few quick and easy things to check:
                              1) Ammo issue? Does this happen only with this lot of ammo, is the ammo sized correctly?
                              2) Chamber clean? Gunk in the chamber can prevent extraction.
                              3) Extractor tension? This needs to be checked periodically, there are many online sources that show how.
                              4) Check the extractor hook itself, does it look worn out anywhere?
                              1911 extractors MUST be retensioned as normal maintenance.

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