Is it SIG's turn?

[Fishslayer]

OK... S&W and Ruger have abandoned the hammer in favor of cheaper polymer striker fired pistols...

Striker fired SIGs are showing up in the marketplace and last month's American Rifleman touted them as "the SIG's of the Future."

Anybody see the hammer fired SIGs going the way of the P series Rugers or 3rd Gen Smiths? That would suck...

I know, I know... HK etc etc etc They don't count because we suck and they hate us...

[roger1022]

The surge of these new polymer striker can be attributed to market forces and somewhat production costs. The companies are aware of the popularity of the Glock and are stepping up to compete in that market.

However, I doubt that Sig or HK will stop making their hammer fired pistols.

[Norsemen308]

SIG is not forgetting what made them, they are simply trying to broaden the market share, GLOCK has a lock on the cheap gun market (their entire fleet is pretty much 499-599). You have young fan boys that are running out and buying that "first gun" so SIG and HK and S&W created lines to try and keep life long customers. What S&W did with the M&P series is probably the best example as of yet.

[stormvet]

I think Sig just gets its kicks out of making as many different types of guns possible. My god look at thier product line up, it takes days just to look at all their different makes, models, types, special model of this, etc. It can give you a headache just looking at their site.

[phantomx48]

Something I have noticed going to the range, and taking classes is that the younger crowd is shying away from hammer fired, in particular, because of that DA/SA trigger. Not sure if it is the Glock influence or what, but many shooters seem to start off with a 4-6lb SA trigger, from a Glock, or an M&P, and then they view DA/SA guns as hard to shoot, old fashioned, and pointless.

Because of this I can see why Sig would want to extend its product line considerably towards striker fired in the future, and maybe reduce some of its hammer fired options.

[rm1911]

I think Sig just gets its kicks out of making as many different types of guns possible. My god look at thier product line up, it takes days just to look at all their different makes, models, types, special model of this, etc. It can give you a headache just looking at their site.

Yeah, but looking at the kalifornia approved models takes about 30 seconds.

[roger1022]

Something I have noticed going to the range, and taking classes is that the younger crowd is shying away from hammer fired, in particular, because of that DA/SA trigger. Not sure if it is the Glock influence or what, but many shooters seem to start off with a 4-6lb SA trigger, from a Glock, or an M&P, and then they view DA/SA guns as hard to shoot, old fashioned, and pointless.

Because of this I can see why Sig would want to extend its product line considerably towards striker fired in the future, and maybe reduce some of its hammer fired options.

Make no bones about it, Glocks are quite popular due to price and or features (pull and shoot, no safety selector). That probably figures into the equation when purchasing. Also noticed that there are lots of used Glocks for sale as well. Want a cheap first gun? Look no further.

However, I don't see the DA/SA guns going away either. At the range, I've seen younger/newer shooters with Beretta, CZ and other DA/SA guns as well.

Yeah, but looking at the kalifornia approved models takes about 30 seconds.

LOL! All the DRPK approved models fit nicely on a single page.

[bsg]

as long as Sig continues to make profit on a given platform, they'll keep making it. they'll make it cheaper and charge more. they would most likely stick with a platform that has been a winner in the past but has been losing money if the rest of the line can carry that platform until sales on said gun can be bolstered again. marketing has a lot to do with a lot; Sig could sell manure to a pig farmer.

[JDay]

HK doesn't hate you.

[MikeSmith]

Just curious...are there any disadvantages to striker fired guns? If gun makers cut costs by going that route there has to be some disadvantages somewhere right?

[tbc]

Is it SIG's turn?

Just curious...are there any disadvantages to striker fired guns? If gun makers cut costs by going that route there has to be some disadvantages somewhere right?

Yes. The disadvantage is that if I wanted just striker fired platforms, I could never owned 1911s and CZs.

ETA: A factory striker fired trigger can never beat a single action hammer fired factory trigger. A tuned striker fired trigger can never beat a tuned single action hammer fired trigger.

[Gaius Marius]

The SIG Sauer P series will likely be here to stay as it is generally the choice of those military branches globally who adopt it. Their striker fired pistols are most certainly a product meant for civillian consumption and thankfully are an improvement over their previous polymer framed ventures. Civilian purchasers like striker fired/polymer frame guns for their price point, governments have the luxury of taxpayer money and there fore seem to stick with the hammer fired DA/SA pistols. That should tell you something.

[MikeSmith]

The two major disadvantages are that they're easier to negligently discharge, and they don't have second strike capability.

I sold off all my DA/SA pistols (revolvers exempt) and shoot only striker fired and 1911s today.

Oh I see that makes sense. So if you were to get a light primer strike? or something like that you would be helpless unless you reracked the slide.

[MikeSmith]

Yes. The disadvantage is that if I wanted just striker fired platforms, I could never owned 1911s and CZs.

ETA: A factory striker fired trigger can never beat a single action hammer fired factory trigger. A tuned striker fired trigger can never beat a tuned single action hammer fired trigger.

I totally agree the trigger on my M&P45 was pretty bad. However I love the trigger on my 3rd gen smith and my Sig.

[stormvet]

The two major disadvantages are that they're easier to negligently discharge, and they don't have second strike capability.

I sold off all my DA/SA pistols (revolvers exempt) and shoot only striker fired and 1911s today.

Same here, although I do own and shoot CZ's still. But only in the single action mode, they are more or less strictly range and fun guns. Work and carry guns are 1911 and stricker. Even with a gun with second strick capabilities, immediate action tap and rack would be employed before attempting to fire again.