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  • ChangeMyNameToStupid
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 176

    DROS Pistol Lower problem?

    Here's what happened. I stippled and reduced my Glock frame and want a new frame. I talked to Glock, they said just ship it over through a FFL holder and they will replace the frame (damaged not under warranty*) with a new frame at a cost.
    Problem is after talking with my FFL holder, shipping the frame is no problem but since 2015 they aren't able to DROS a pistol frame. Before I call the DOJ, does anyone have a solution to this?
    Would the easiest way to bypass this be to send in the entire pistol to Glock and have it returned as a full pistol so the DROS would be for a complete?

    Thank You
    Last edited by ChangeMyNameToStupid; 05-19-2015, 1:44 PM.
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    Rhyyke
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2128

    So basically you are buying a new frame from Glock? If the same law that applies to transfering pistol AR lowers applies here, then you could bring your slide (or "upper" I guess) to the LGS to attach before they start the DROS. Sending your slide to Glock for them to fit for you would probably work too.

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    • #3
      ChangeMyNameToStupid
      Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 176

      Sounds good, I'll ask the dealer if they could ship my slide along so it can go through the DROS as a full handgun. Thank you Rhyyke

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      • #4
        Rhyyke
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2128

        No worries! Pretty cool of Glock to work with you on it like that.

        Out of curiosity, are they going to dispose of the original frame? If you're paying for a new frame altogether, I would keep the one you stipled for ****s and giggles, unless they are planning to recycle that frame somehow?

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        • #5
          SloChicken
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 4533

          I may be wrong, but I think you may need to find a FFL 07 as placing the slide, etc. on the frame constitutes manufacture. A FFL 01 can't do this as far as I understand.

          Your question may be best addressed in the FFLs forum
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          • #6
            Rhyyke
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2128

            Originally posted by SloChicken
            I may be wrong, but I think you may need to find a FFL 07 as placing the slide, etc. on the frame constitutes manufacture. A FFL 01 can't do this as far as I understand.

            Your question may be best addressed in the FFLs forum
            When I bought a pistol lower from another CG'er, I brought an upper to the FFL and attached it there before we started the DROS. I guess in that case we did the "manufacturing" step? Then again if the plan is to send the slide to Glock and let them attach it, it should be non of the FFL's concern as they recieve a complete pistol.

            But yeah OP double check in the FFL forum just to be extra extra sure.

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            • #7
              rm1911
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 4073

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              This is why it didn't require an 07 to do SSE 1.0. And why it wouldn't require an 07 to do SSE 2.0 on 1911 frames, especially if the upper is customer supplied.

              I guess a bigger question is if they'll ship OP just a frame will they be willing to ship frames/lowers sans uppers to Kali ffl's. If so then that opens up a whole bunch of options.
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              • #8
                Baboosh
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2008
                • 6769

                Originally posted by rm1911
                Google is yer friend





                This is why it didn't require an 07 to do SSE 1.0. And why it wouldn't require an 07 to do SSE 2.0 on 1911 frames, especially if the upper is customer supplied.

                I guess a bigger question is if they'll ship OP just a frame will they be willing to ship frames/lowers sans uppers to Kali ffl's. If so then that opens up a whole bunch of options.
                You are wrong on the aspect of an 01 doing an SSE on a 1911 frame.

                Before the FFL was shipped a complete 1911, the FFL just added parts to make it SSE.

                Now the FFL is shipped a receiver only and he is building a pistol. That requires the FFL to be an 07. Upper supplied by the customer or not the FFL is manufacturing the complete pistol and will need to pay the excise tax accordingly.

                Now to the OP. If Glock is willing to sell you a frame please PM me the name of the person you spoke with. I have been told time and time again that Glock will not sell or ship just frames. The frames you see on GunBroker and other websites were once complete guns which they are selling as parts.
                Just a normal guy

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                • #9
                  TheShagg
                  Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 352

                  I believe OP is having the frame replaced as a repair option. I can see why Glock would do this, but not sell a frame outright. I would also think that the manufacturer would like to replace the frame, transferring the parts over? The story the OP states doesn't make sense - why would you ship the whole gun and get a pile of parts back?

                  OP: Is this an on-roster pistol? This could be very important. I would hate for you to send them an off-roster frame, they destroy it, and you try and DROS a new frame (+slide, whatever) and not be able to.

                  Everyone else: is "lower" an acceptable term for a pistol frame?

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