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  • steelholder
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3322

    question for cz sp01 owners

    I've been eyeing this model for a while,heard lots of good things. Had a question regarding da/sa, the specification states it's a da, can I have a round loaded in chamber with hammer down an be able to fire?or does hammer have to be pulled back before firing?

    I'm used to da/sa weapons that allow for a first da or sa shot(some.with.decockers)then sa shots. Not sure if this is similar.thanks for the help.
    WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer
  • #2
    Stanced
    Banned
    • Feb 2015
    • 138

    So you want to chamber a round and de-cock the hammer without firing off a round?

    You can pull the trigger with the hammer down to fire a round. It would be just a DA pull.

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    • #3
      Tere_Hanges
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2013
      • 6268

      Yes, it is DA/SA. When hammer is down, u can have a round in the chamber and longer DA trigger pull to fire. Just a note, the hammer will not go all the way down, it will be in a safety notch. U have to manually lower the hammer into the safety notch when round is in chamber. Or u could carry cocked and locked, since it also has a manual safety.
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      • #4
        code_blue
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 3452

        DA is DA. It will fire in any condition minus with safety on if applicable. Same as any other DA/SA.

        No difference, except CZ's "D" variants decock into half cocked position. Manual safety versions will need to be manually decocked, but I don't remember if they go to full or half cocked position.
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        • #5
          kjv146
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 897

          Yes. SP01 Tactical is the version with the decocker. Standard SP01 has ambi safeties. Both go to a half cock for DA.
          He who keepeth his mouth, keepeth his life. But he who opens wide his lips shall have destruction. Proverbs 13:3

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          • #6
            BEE
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2904

            On both the SP-01 Tactical & regular SP-01 w/ thumb safety you can a round chamber and have the hammer fully down. Though it will be longer than DA in half cocked position.

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            • #7
              whipkiller
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 3461

              Yes, you can fire in DA, difference being that unless you have the SP-01 Tactical w/Decocker (off-roster) you have to manually (and hopefully safely) de-cock on a live round.

              There is a gentleman on here who had an ND while lowering the hammer on his SP-01 to start a stage in competition. Fortunately, and to his credit, he was pointing in a safe direction and the DQ was the worst that came of it.

              He was kind enough to make a thread on it so others could learn from his mistake, and demonstrate that there is definitely a right and wrong way to do it, and that we might want to wipe the sweat off our hands before doing it.
              Last edited by whipkiller; 04-21-2015, 3:26 PM.
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              • #8
                static2126
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 5619

                Originally posted by whipkiller
                Yes, you can fire in DA, difference being that unless you have the SP-01 Tactical w/Decocker (off-roster) you have to manually (and hopefully safely) de-cock on a live round.

                There is a gentleman on here who had an ND while lowering the hammer on his SP-01 to start a stage in competition. Fortunately, and to his credit, he was pointing and the DQ was the worst that came of it.

                He was kind enough to make a thread on it so others could learn from his mistake, and demonstrate that there is definitely a right and wrong way to do it, and that we might want to wipe the sweat off our hands before doing it.
                Yeah for that reason I love the decocker cz's. Sweaty hands and all accidents can happen

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                • #9
                  himurax13
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3895

                  Originally posted by static2126
                  Yeah for that reason I love the decocker cz's. Sweaty hands and all accidents can happen
                  If you use the proper technique for decocking, it is almost impossible to have an accidental discharge. Unfortunately there are far too many noobs using the incorrect method.

                  I dislike the decockers for a few reasons.

                  1. My thumb rests against the bottom of the decocker lever which I find very uncomfortable.
                  2. It is almost impossible to make the trigger anywhere near as nice as the manual safety versions. (A short reset and short & Crisp break with a DA/SA of 5/2 for example).
                  3. The sear cage is a bit more difficult to work with.
                  4. Since the sear cage is difficult to work with, fitting an oversized disconnector to have little to no slack is more of a hassle.
                  5. I prefer the Shadow models, which doesn't come as a decocker.
                  6. You can't run it cocked and locked.
                  Last edited by himurax13; 04-21-2015, 1:43 PM.
                  Originally posted by Bumslie
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                  Originally posted by Sleighter
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                  • #10
                    haiedras
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 556

                    You're just grumpy with decockers. You can manually decock the manual safety SP-01s to either half-cock or fully de-cocked. For USPSA purposes, you have to fully de-cock.

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                    • #11
                      BOYET
                      Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 109

                      Originally posted by himurax13
                      If you use the proper technique for decocking, it is almost impossible to have an accidental discharge. Unfortunately there are far too many noobs using the incorrect method.

                      I dislike the decockers for a few reasons.

                      1. My thumb rests against the bottom of the decocker lever which I find very uncomfortable.
                      2. It is almost impossible to make the trigger anywhere near as nice as the manual safety versions. (A short reset and short & Crisp break with a DA/SA of 5/2 for example).
                      3. The sear cage is a bit more difficult to work with.
                      4. Since the sear cage is difficult to work with, fitting an oversized disconnector to have little to no slack is more of a hassle.
                      5. I prefer the Shadow models, which doesn't come as a decocker.
                      6. You can't run it cocked and locked.
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                      • #12
                        Chetters
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 25

                        The SP-01 will fire DA decocked or 1/2 cocked, SA fully cocked. If there's a safety, it will only engage if fully cocked.

                        Follow-up shots will all be SA unless you decock.

                        If you have the model with safety you can carry decocked or 1/2 cocked with a longer DA pull (manually decocking) or cocked and locked.

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                        • #13
                          BigL
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 678

                          Both the safety (without decocker) and decocker versions are Da/sa. I wouldn't try it on the safety version.
                          Originally posted by becciboo
                          Why make it clear when there is an agency that can make up and enforce their own laws? Its one of those things where you need to make the personal decision as to whether you want to be right or free. Is it worth it to you?

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                          • #14
                            dyson
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 4342

                            its easy to lower the hammer to half cocked on the safety version.

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                            • #15
                              himurax13
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 3895

                              Originally posted by Chetters
                              The SP-01 will fire DA decocked or 1/2 cocked, SA fully cocked. If there's a safety, it will only engage if fully cocked.
                              Unless you have an aftermarket competition hammer. Depending on parts fitment, you can have the safety engage with the hammer down.
                              Originally posted by Bumslie
                              HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
                              Originally posted by Sleighter
                              Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

                              Lifetime NRA member.

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