Steyr SPP legality

[God Bless America]

is the steyr SPP legal for a private-party sale here in CA?

[MMXX]

I don't see why not, some may argue that the nub in the front is a 2nd pistol grip.

Are you selling?

[Guns R Tools]

As long as it has non-threaded barrel it should be ok.

[tonelar]

actually, they'd argue it's a second hand grip, mmxx

[repo4sale]

$? ?? Values???

Sent from my SM-G386T1

[jbj]

[God Bless America]

I am not selling but somebody else might.

As pictured, is that barrel threaded? How is the extension attached?

Thank you all.

I don't see why not, some may argue that the nub in the front is a 2nd pistol grip.

Are you selling?

[Merc1138]

I am not selling but somebody else might.

As pictured, is that barrel threaded? How is the extension attached?

Thank you all.

Yes the barrel assembly(it's really hard to explain that part without having a picture available) is threaded and the muzzle device on the end there is threaded on. It would be simple enough to deal with the threads and have it be legal in CA, problem is going to be actually getting one.

Found a pic from a TP9 so you can see what I mean about the front end on that thing:

[saki302]

Yes, it should be once you deal with the threads.

I passed on an SPP about 15-20 years ago for $350, consignment rack at Turners. Stupid me

-Dave

[dachan]

Yes the barrel assembly(it's really hard to explain that part without having a picture available) is threaded and the muzzle device on the end there is threaded on. It would be simple enough to deal with the threads and have it be legal in CA, problem is going to be actually getting one.

Found a pic from a TP9 so you can see what I mean about the front end on that thing:

Wrong.

The BARREL is not threaded. The threading on the outer portion is not part of the barrel and does not serve to allow any kind of attachment to the barrel no different than if you attached some kind muzzle-brake style compensator barrel-lug to a 1911.

Ding, ding, ding, right. That front part of the SPP is identified as Item 43, “Barrel guide, sub-assembly” in the factory documentation. It is not part of the barrel. There is no threading on the barrel of a SPP. Furthermore, even if the barrel guide was part of the barrel, which it isn’t, the assembly is manufactured so that it cannot be disassembled to expose any threads (the forward aluminum tube piece is probably pressed onto the base steel section).

After B&T purchased all the technical data and production rights to the TMP and SPP from Steyr Arms in 2004, they began to offer an optional barrel guide for the TP-9 with a modified external portion which added three lugs to accept a proprietary 3 lug suppressor (silencer). They also modified the standard barrel guide to make the front section removable so that a threaded suppressor could be mounted. However, in either case, since the barrel guide is not the barrel on a TP-9, there is no violation of CA penal code with having a barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor or silencer.

The actual argument with the SPP besides the nub being a second handgrip is whether or not the barrel guide is a shroud (“that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel”). And of course, if either of these items becomes an issue, one can always make the magazine non-detachable (with a “bullet button”).

[dachan]

The actual argument with the SPP besides the nub being a second handgrip is whether or not the barrel guide is a shroud (“that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel”).

Thinking back, I believe the argument against the barrel guide being a shroud is that the barrel on extends only through the back portion of the barrel guide, and that part of the barrel is covered by the top cover and frame anyway.

In any case, 1 is just not enough; be sure to buy 2 so you can have one in each hand for those times when you dive 60-feet sideways through the air from a tall building onto the top of a bus, as you shoot at your arch enemy and nemesis "Willy the Wrench" to stop him from taking over the world. (And that's just my DAY job!)

Or for the next time you visit the Guggenheim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UdvVY8WuT8