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  • tmuller
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1839

    Compact 9mm suggestions

    Looking for a compact 9mm. My wife prefers DA/SA 9mm autos and wants one for HD in CA and purse carry in AZ. I have not been extremely impressed, personally not the wife, with the look or ergonomics of the usual suspects; XD, M&P, USPc, Glock 26/19, and Kahr PM909. I have shot all but the Kahr, any would make an excellent choice but I want to go another direction.

    I have recently looked at SA 1911 EMP, Para litehawg, and CZ 2075 RAMI. I have to say that I was leaning CZ before I saw the price difference. Anyone have experience or suggestions regarding these three? Thanks!!

    CZ: http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=48
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  • #2
    Black Majik
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 9695

    Give the HK P2000 v3 9mm a try. It might just fit the bill.

    Also, the older Walther P99. Lastly, the stamped slide SIG P228/P225

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    • #3
      Miltiades
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1148

      Sig P239

      I have several compact 9mm guns, including the Glock 19 and the Kahr MK9, but my favorite is probably the Sig P239. This is a single stack, 8+1 capacity 9mm that weighs about 27.5 ounces empty with an aluminum frame, and has a very trim, streamlined appearance. It is large enough to be a good range or home defense gun, and small enough to conceal easily. I bought mine slightly used for $575.

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      • #4
        tmuller
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 1839

        ok

        Thanks for the suggestions. P-99 is a bit to large but I have considered looking at the P2000 v3. As for the P239 I have a police return P-6 that I'm getting soon and several other Sigs, I want a safety on this one.

        I have done some research independently and I think I will go for the RAMI unless someone talks me out of it. 66 posts and 2 replies doesn't seem as if anyone's interested tho...
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        • #5
          Black Majik
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 9695

          Originally posted by tmuller
          Thanks for the suggestions. P-99 is a bit to large but I have considered looking at the P2000 v3. As for the P239 I have a police return P-6 that I'm getting soon and several other Sigs, I want a safety on this one.

          I have done some research independently and I think I will go for the RAMI unless someone talks me out of it. 66 posts and 2 replies doesn't seem as if anyone's interested tho...
          Oddly enough, I don't see too much discussion on the RAMI. That's probably the reason to the limited reply, however I doubt you could go wrong with one.

          The P99 and P2000 is actually quite similar in size. Both offer a subcompact version which will mirror closer to the size of the CZ RAMI. Between the P99 and the P2000, I think I actually prefer the trigger on the P99. HK is known to have a long, heavy DA trigger, the P99 is significantly smoother by comparison. Both decockers are well placed away from getting accidentally activated. Also, the P99 trigger has a very short reset that'll rival the 1911 platform. However, all said and done, I prefer shooting the P2000. Go figure..

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          • #6
            tmuller
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 1839

            Originally posted by Black Majik
            The P99 and P2000 is actually quite similar in size. Both offer a subcompact version which will mirror closer to the size of the CZ RAMI. Between the P99 and the P2000, I think I actually prefer the trigger on the P99. HK is known to have a long, heavy DA trigger, the P99 is significantly smoother by comparison. Both decockers are well placed away from getting accidentally activated. Also, the P99 trigger has a very short reset that'll rival the 1911 platform. However, all said and done, I prefer shooting the P2000. Go figure..
            Intersting, I didn't know that the P-99 came in a sub-compact maybe I'll have to check that out. I've had several HK's and definitely know about the HK trigger, fine after a little work tho. I found an older thread on THR on the RAMI and I haven't seen much negative yet so I think I'm leaning in that direction. Thanks again Black Majik!!
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            • #7
              Black Majik
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 9695

              Originally posted by tmuller
              Intersting, I didn't know that the P-99 came in a sub-compact maybe I'll have to check that out. I've had several HK's and definitely know about the HK trigger, fine after a little work tho. I found an older thread on THR on the RAMI and I haven't seen much negative yet so I think I'm leaning in that direction. Thanks again Black Majik!!
              No problem, good luck!

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Get a surplus SIG P-6.
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #9
                  Black Majik
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 9695

                  Originally posted by Quiet
                  Get a surplus SIG P-6.
                  Originally posted by tmuller
                  As for the P239 I have a police return P-6 that I'm getting soon and several other Sigs, I want a safety on this one.
                  .

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                  • #10
                    mike100
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 2507

                    Was there a purchase price cap? You should at least look at an Hk p7m8 which is sort of in a category by itself...not too big, not too small, full 4.1 inch bbl so no compromise in ballistics.

                    here is a photo collage comparing size to a 1911 commander.

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                    • #11
                      tmuller
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1839

                      well...

                      Originally posted by mike100
                      Was there a purchase price cap?
                      As much of a cap as the Mrs. will allow. She does like the P7 models and they certainly retain value however it may be tough to swing. I am more looking for a shooter than something I would question shooting repeatedly, have enough of those already. That being said I love those pistols and may try to see how that discussion goes...
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                      • #12
                        DPC
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 845

                        I like the SA 9mm EMP and the HK P2000sk 9mm!!!

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                        • #13
                          Mute
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8568

                          Of all the listed guns my favorite by far is the EMP. That thing shoots great and feels right in the hands.
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                          • #14
                            tmuller
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1839

                            Originally posted by Mute
                            Of all the listed guns my favorite by far is the EMP. That thing shoots great and feels right in the hands.
                            I bet. It looks beautiful too. I need to handle it first but at twice the priceof the CZ I'm not sure if I could bring myself to spend that kind of dough now. Thanks for the tip I need to get my hands on the EMP.
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                            • #15
                              saxman
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 555

                              P99c is hard to beat from what you described

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