Orange County: Instructor Review & Recommendation Thread

[kriller134]

Did my renewal with Artemis. They were and professional. All the material came in a binder with your name on it. I thought that was a nice touch. Steve and his wife Sandy are great teachers and it helps a lot that Steve is a firearms lawyer. Really good insight. I would definitely recommend them for training.

[Psykronik]

OC Online Gun Certificate

Orange County's only online gun certification is phenomenal for shooters with experiencing carrying on a daily basis. I would recommend this for CCW renewals and law enforcement/military (active and retired). It's a self-paced course and really makes the student accountable for their own learning. That being said, I think the majority of CCW applicants could use hands-on, classroom training. But for those who are extremely busy, and will actually read and absorb the material, this is a great course for them, too.

Winston is always available to answer questions in a timely manner, and very professional.

Scheduling the range time is very easy, and he is very flexible.

http://www.oconlineguncert.com/

[Browneye]

It is NOT the only online option - there is also https://www.safeinsight.net/

All classroom is done online - you must complete each segment and pass an interim test, then an overall test. You cannot pass without a passing score.
Range time is done with a qualified trainer for each weapon you are putting on your application/permit.

Check 'em out.

[mr goodguy]

any one here knows where to find inside range? where does greg block do his training now? thanks

[Yodaman]

Great idea Doheny.....nailed it again. Thanks for thread


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Yodaman]

Orange County's only online gun certification is phenomenal for shooters with experiencing carrying on a daily basis. I would recommend this for CCW renewals and law enforcement/military (active and retired). It's a self-paced course and really makes the student accountable for their own learning. That being said, I think the majority of CCW applicants could use hands-on, classroom training. But for those who are extremely busy, and will actually read and absorb the material, this is a great course for them, too.



Winston is always available to answer questions in a timely manner, and very professional.



Scheduling the range time is very easy, and he is very flexible.



http://www.oconlineguncert.com/

Winston is legit. Very accommodating and professional.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[socal m1 shooter]

Artemis is pretty good, IMO. They do a 16-hour course spread over two days. The cost was a little over two hundred dollars, plus ammo.
I first went to an Artemis Pre-CCW class and thought it was thorough. The instructor for that class was Steven Lieberman, a lawyer who handles CCW-related cases almost exclusively. His wife is the owner of Artemis, but he teaches some parts of their classes. I was on the fence, but after talking with him I decided to apply, and I signed up for the weekend class at Artemis.
Someone I know took a CCW class from another well-known instructor, and what was described to me seemed mind-numbing. The instructor was dead tired, and it showed; he was reading Powerpoint slides to the class like they were too dumb to read for themselves. Not only boring, but insulting, and probably useless.
The CCW class at Artemis has a few different instructors. Steven Lieberman did part, and other parts were handled by his wife (Sandy) and other instructors (all retired LEOs and/or ex-military). I have a short attention span, so I appreciate when a class is interesting and lively. At the end of our first day, one of the students went into the simulator (the 300-degree VirTra with five screens) and did a scenario. It was very interesting and thought-provoking to watch this. You can see the scenario if you search for "survive+thrive pistol training artemis" on YouTube.
Artemis offers a collateral benefit if you get CCW training there, in the form of a reduced-cost membership. This gets you access to group classes and a limited amount of time in their simulator (a 300-degree VirTra with five screens arrayed like a hexagon). If any other trainers are offering a similar deal, I'd be interested to know.

[ladiver]

Winston is legit. Very accommodating and professional.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Any idea how long it takes to mail the course completion certificate? My wife is doing live fire tomorrow and her permit expires next week. Everything has been completed with OCSD, just haven't had time to get to the range.

Thanks,

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

[guntrust]

I have simplified the enrollment process for the free CCW class i offer (described at http://guntrust.org).

Also, I'm offering a free basic estate plan to anyone that attends my CCW class.

Plus i even pay for range time at your live fire test.

And you can get virtually unlimited free training at Front Sight, just by attending my free estate planning seminars.

Everything you need to protect your family!

[Yodaman]

Orange County: Instructor Review & Recommendation Thread

Any idea how long it takes to mail the course completion certificate? My wife is doing live fire tomorrow and her permit expires next week. Everything has been completed with OCSD, just haven't had time to get to the range.

Thanks,

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Winston gives it to you on the same day you do the range qualification.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Speedmaster11]

Winston gives it to you on the same day you do the range qualification.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just completed the training with Winston, highly recommend it.

[NYC2SoCal]

Excellent training at Artemis Defense Institute in Lake Forest

I did my training with Artemis the weekend of 10/27-28. I thought it was well worth it.

The classroom instruction was not death by powerpoint, but with real world examples and cases that the instructor, Steve Lieberman, handled. As mentioned in previous posts, he's an attorney with a focus on firearm related litigation.

Come to think of it, I don't even think they have a projector in the classroom!

We're all avid shooters on here, and passing the shooting qualifications and firearm manipulations under stress is something we all understand.

The true value, in my humble opinion, is from the expert perspective from an actual firearm/justification on use of force/self defense attorney. We all know, or you better know, that once the threat is stopped and the smoke clears, that is when the REAL battle starts.

[TDL2024]

Another positive vote for Artemis. Took mine there a couple weeks ago. I intend to go back for some more of their classes too.

Steven has a good speaking style, keeps you interested in the subjects and he covers quite a bit of info. The rest of the team was great too. Overall pretty good experience and worth the money IMO.

[downyours]

I wanted to post my recommendation for ApplicationTactical.com out of Fallbrook. Though technically not in OC, there were a couple of people there from OC. The class had 6 people of an available 10 and was very good. Helped identify some failure points for me and my coworker found his gun doesn't like to be pushed very hard. Definetly an A+ from me. Safety was a top priority in class. It is geared towards intermediate and advanced shooters as well. I will be taking the class again soon as well as some of the other classes offered by them.

[bubbapug1]

I need to renew. I used Block the last two times and he's great, but now he's too far away.

I don't want a pseudo role playing class where I shoot tied in a pretzel position. . I just want to get it done in the least amount of time and hassle.

Any suggestions??