2 questions

[swiftone]

My Google search failed me - or I did not have the correct search terms. 🤷*♂️

Question 1. When traveling out of CA to a state with CA reciprocity, am I required to carry a gun that is listed by serial number on my CA CCW?

Question 2. I am also a AZ property owner with a current AZ ID card (not a license) and a AZ CCW. If I visit a state (Colorado) that only recognizes AZ resident CCW, will my AZ CCW cover me?

* when checking the reciprocity maps it only asks if I am a AZ resident- not full or part time.

Planning a cross country trip and my route depends on what I find out.

[9Cal_OC]

1. Yes

2. You can only be a resident of one state. Likely when you encounter CO LEO, you will be presenting a DL and not an ID. So given this, you’d have to open carry (you can CC when driving without a permit).

[swiftone]

9Cal_OC

Do you have anything to back up the answer to question #1? Not that I doubt you, I would just like to see it on a offical document.

[9Cal_OC]

It?s part of the CA CCW license conditions under section 4 of the license application:

While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee shall not, when carrying a concealed weapon:
? Consume any alcoholic beverage.
? Be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site consumption.
? Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
? Refuse to show the license or surrender the concealed weapon to any peace officer upon demand.
? Impede any peace officer in the performance of his/her duties.
Present himself/herself as a peace officer to any person unless he/she is, in fact, a peace officer as defined by California law.
? Uniustifiably displav a concealed weapon.
? Carry a concealed weapon not listed on the permit.
Carry a concealed weapon at times or circumstances other than those specified in the permit.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/permitium-downloads/Placer_County/Sections+4+and+6.pdf

[swiftone]

Perfect and upset I could not find that myself 🤦*♂️

[RickD427]

1. Yes

2. You can only be a resident of one state. Likely when you encounter CO LEO, you will be presenting a DL and not an ID. So given this, you?d have to open carry (you can CC when driving without a permit).

Some caution is called for with regard to the residency question.

A person's state of residence is defined in federal law, and in the laws of each state, and the definitions are not always the same

1) Under federal law, a person can only be a resident of one state at a time, but in cases where a person maintains homes in different states, they can change their residency as quickly as they can travel between their homes. Please note that possession of a state ID card, or Driver's License does not establish federal residency. Please refer to 27CFR478.11

2) Under California law, a person can easily be a resident of multiple states. The possession of an ID Card or Driver's License is one of several factors considered in determining residency, but standing alone, does not determine residency. Please refer to Penal Code section 17000(b).

[BC9696]

I handed a CO GW my CDL, CA & AZ CCW. No issues.

[Quiet]

Do you have anything to back up the answer to question #1? Not that I doubt you, I would just like to see it on a offical document.

Effective 01-01-2024, violating any of the following causes the CA CCW permit to be invalid while the prohibited activity is occurring and is grounds for permit revocation if discovered...

Penal Code 26200
(a) While carrying a firearm as authorized by a license issued pursuant to this chapter, a licensee shall not do any of the following:
(1) Consume an alcoholic beverage or controlled substance as described in Sections 11053 to 11058, inclusive, of the Health and Safety Code.
(2) Be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for onsite consumption.
(3) Be under the influence of any alcoholic beverage, medication, or controlled substance as described in Sections 11053 to 11058, inclusive, of the Health and Safety Code.
(4) Carry a firearm not listed on the license or a firearm for which they are not the recorded owner. This paragraph does not apply to a licensee who was issued a license pursuant to Section 26170, in which case they may carry a firearm that is registered to the agency for which the licensee has been deputized or appointed to serve as a peace officer, and the licensee carries the firearm consistent with that agency's policies.
(5) Falsely represent to a person that the licensee is a peace officer.
(6) Engage in an unjustified display of a deadly weapon.
(7) Fail to carry the license on their person.
(8) Impede a peace officer in the conduct of their activities.
(9) Refuse to display the license or to provide the firearm to a peace officer upon demand for purposes of inspecting the firearm.
(10) Violate any federal, state, or local criminal law.
(b) In addition to the restrictions and conditions listed in subdivision (a), a license issued pursuant to this chapter may also include any reasonable restrictions or conditions that the licensing authority deems warranted, including restrictions as to the time, place, manner, and circumstances under which a licensee may carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(c) Any restrictions imposed pursuant to subdivision (b) shall be indicated on any license issued.
(d) A licensee authorized to carry a firearm pursuant to this chapter shall not carry more than two firearms under the licensee's control at one time.

[Pistol_Ned]

You learn something new everyday. So if one only has the AZ non-resident permit they are free to carry in appropriate states whatever legal firearms they own, but being a resident and CCW holder in CA with an AZ non-resident permit limits you to whats on your CA permit? wow!

[9Cal_OC]

You learn something new everyday. So if one only has the AZ non-resident permit they are free to carry in appropriate states whatever legal firearms they own, but being a resident and CCW holder in CA with an AZ non-resident permit limits you to whats on your CA permit? wow!

Don?t confuse the two.

If you carry in a state that recognizes both CA and non-resident AZ permits, you can carry whatever you like (present AZ permit as your license). So if one were to travel through UT, you can present either permit, but if you present the CA permit, you need to abide by the rules of the CA IA and carry what?s listed on the back of that permit. Otherwise, present AZ and you are free to carry what you like (with respect to UT laws - albeit UT is now constitutional carry)

If you carry in states that only recognize CA but not AZ non-res (Michigan for example), you?d be bound to carry what?s on your CA permit, regardless of any non-res permits you may have.

[Quiet]

Don't confuse the two.

If you carry in a state that recognizes both CA and non-resident AZ permits, you can carry whatever you like (present AZ permit as your license). So if one were to travel through UT, you can present either permit, but if you present the CA permit, you need to abide by the rules of the CA IA and carry what's listed on the back of that permit. Otherwise, present AZ and you are free to carry what you like (with respect to UT laws - albeit UT is now constitutional carry)

If you carry in states that only recognize CA but not AZ non-res (Michigan for example), you'd be bound to carry what's on your CA permit, regardless of any non-res permits you may have.

[Pistol_Ned]

Got it. Thanks!

[swiftone]

Interesting. So it looks like I have two options for Colorado.

Go unarmed or conceal while in my truck and don't stay overnight. Easy enough.

Every other state we are visiting is either CC or covered by my CA or non res AZ license

And actually once I clear CA border I am free to carry what I please (but will stick to my tried and true 365XL)