Former Resident, Travel to CA Frequently Due to Family. Concealed Question.

[wyncarl]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have non-CA permits and am a non-resident looking to carry in CA.

I recently moved to Oregon and have my OR CHL and UT CFP. I have family in CA and regularly travel there.

I know there is no reciprocity, but is there any way to legally concealed carry in CA as a newly out of state resident? I travel back to my parents house frequently, and spend quite a few days in that county at their house every year.

[G-forceJunkie]

No.

[9Cal_OC]

Nope.

You answered your own question:

I know there is no reciprocity, but […]

[jimbo74]

HANDGUNS

Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle?s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.
Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (shotguns and rifles) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported.

REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS

California Penal Code section 30945, subdivision (g) provides that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and stored in a locked container when transported.
Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment.

[tonelar]

Rather than start a new discussion - is there a way I can apply for a non resident CA CCW?

I have Texas Arizona and Utah permits but have not applied in CA yet. I visit a few times per year to spend time with colleagues, friends and family.

[9Cal_OC]

Rather than start a new discussion - is there a way I can apply for a non resident CA CCW?

I have Texas Arizona and Utah permits but have not applied in CA yet. I visit a few times per year to spend time with colleagues, friends and family.

At this point, it?s not worth getting one. Only valid for 90 days in the county that it?s issued.

[Quiet]

Former Resident, Travel to CA Frequently Due to Family. Concealed Question.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have non-CA permits and am a non-resident looking to carry in CA.

I recently moved to Oregon and have my OR CHL and UT CFP. I have family in CA and regularly travel there.

I know there is no reciprocity, but is there any way to legally concealed carry in CA as a newly out of state resident? I travel back to my parents house frequently, and spend quite a few days in that county at their house every year.

Not really.

See below for more details.

Rather than start a new discussion - is there a way I can apply for a non resident CA CCW?

I have Texas Arizona and Utah permits but have not applied in CA yet. I visit a few times per year to spend time with colleagues, friends and family.

Yes, there is a process that can be done by a non-resident of CA.

A County Sheriff Department can issue a CCW permit to a non-resident for a business/employment good cause. [PC 26150(a)(3)]

Due to the SCOTUS Bruen ruling and CA OAG-2022-02, the business/employment good cause is no longer required for non-residents.

However...
1. The application process and fees are the same as a resident application.
2. The non-resident CCW permit is only valid in the County it is issued in and only valid for 90 days. [PC 26220(b)]

[tonelar]

thanks 9CAL OC and Quiet

[bigstick61]

Not really.

See below for more details.


Yes, there is a process that can be done by a non-resident of CA.

A County Sheriff Department can issue a CCW permit to a non-resident for a business/employment good cause. [PC 26150(a)(3)]

Due to the SCOTUS Bruen ruling and CA OAG-2022-02, the business/employment good cause is no longer required for non-residents.

However...
1. The application process and fees are the same as a resident application.
2. The non-resident CCW permit is only valid in the County it is issued in and only valid for 90 days. [PC 26220(b)]

Are IAs in the habit of requiring guns to be listed on the permit to be registered in CA? If so, is there even a process for this? I've been talking to someone who wants to attempt to get one.

[DolphinFan]

?We too agree that the second and fourteenth amendments, protects an individual to carry a handgun for self defense outside the home.?
NYPRA v Bruen

That is your reciprocity.

[Quiet]

Are IAs in the habit of requiring guns to be listed on the permit to be registered in CA? If so, is there even a process for this? I've been talking to someone who wants to attempt to get one.

Currently, some require it and some do not.
This is because it is up to each issuing agency to decide as part of their process to approve a specific handgun for carry or not.


However, new CA legislation (SB2, goes into effect 01-01-2024) requires handguns to be listed on a CA CCW permit to be registered to the permit applicant.

Except for a specific type of exempt person (non-resident FFL/SOT with a valid DWP), currently there is no method for a non-resident to get a firearm registered/listed in AFS.

[bigstick61]

Currently, some require it and some do not.
This is because it is up to each issuing agency to decide as part of their process to approve a specific handgun for carry or not.


However, new CA legislation (SB2, goes into effect 01-01-2024) requires handguns to be listed on a CA CCW permit to be registered to the permit applicant.

Except for a specific type of exempt person (non-resident FFL/SOT with a valid DWP), currently there is no method for a non-resident to get a firearm registered/listed in AFS.

So are non-resident permits that have any kind of value left in them effectively being done away with, given that permits are only valid for the listed weapons?

I always thought this requirement when imposed by IAs in permits generally was dumb given what happens to the info of guns listed on a permit and given that many lawfully acquired unregistered firearms exist in CA. Making it a uniform, mandatory policy is even worse, if unsurprising coming from our legislature.

[BAJ475]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have non-CA permits and am a non-resident looking to carry in CA.

I recently moved to Oregon and have my OR CHL and UT CFP. I have family in CA and regularly travel there.

I know there is no reciprocity, but is there any way to legally concealed carry in CA as a newly out of state resident? I travel back to my parents house frequently, and spend quite a few days in that county at their house every year.

Did you move from CA to OR? If so, did you have a CA CCW license when you moved to OR?

[BAJ475]

Rather than start a new discussion - is there a way I can apply for a non resident CA CCW?

I have Texas Arizona and Utah permits but have not applied in CA yet. I visit a few times per year to spend time with colleagues, friends and family.

You could write to your State Attorney General and ask him to join with other pro 2A Attorneys General and sue the State of California in the US Supreme Court based on CA's refusal to issue concealed carry licenses to non-residents and for by not allowing non-residents to carry in CA based on reciprocity.

[LBDamned]

I wish I would have thought to consider this before my old CA permit expired (years ago)...

I wonder if it would be easier to request temp in state CCW for out of state resident that previously held CA CCW (and currently holds permit in state of residence)?

I'm suspect it's flat out 'no' - which falls in line with one of many reasons I left.