Florida CCW

[Cokebottle]

Can someone confirm that notary is not longer required. My application doesn't have a place for a notary to sign and I read from one source that it is no liver required.

It was required a year ago. Section III on the last page.

California uses a different form... my notary actually lined through the FL form, stamped it to see attached, and attached her own.

She was chatting with us the whole time and almost seemed to be on auto-pilot. This was an Auto Club notary, she did the passport photo as well.

I really got the feeling that it was far from the first time she had processed a Florida app.

[rickysyxx]

It was required a year ago.

It is a separate form, and California uses a different form... my notary actually lined through the FL form, stamped it to see attached, and attached her own.

She was chatting with us the whole time and almost seemed to be on auto-pilot. This was an Auto Club notary, she did the passport photo as well.

I really got the feeling that it was far from the first time she had processed a Florida app.

So California uses a different form? What form would that be? The AAA notary just attached a separate form?

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[Cokebottle]

So California uses a different form? What form would that be? The AAA notary just attached a separate form?

Ya... She marked the app to see her attachment, put a line through the section, and printed her own form.
I guess California has some kind of form required for ID verification... dunno, I didn't encounter that for my San Bernardino CCW app.

I kinda freaked a little when she stamped it and drew the line through it!

[rickysyxx]

Ya... She marked the app to see her attachment, put a line through the section, and printed her own form.
I guess California has some kind of form required for ID verification... dunno, I didn't encounter that for my San Bernardino CCW app.

I kinda freaked a little when she stamped it and drew the line through it!

Awesome thanks. On a different note, did you get your San Bernardino CCW? Sad to say I'm stuck in LA County for the next 3 years. By then I hope SCOTUS reverses the 9th Circuit. I'm glad that President Trump plans to stack the 9th with constitutionalist.

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[Cokebottle]

Awesome thanks. On a different note, did you get your San Bernardino CCW? Sad to say I'm stuck in LA County for the next 3 years. By then I hope SCOTUS reverses the 9th Circuit. I'm glad that President Trump plans to stack the 9th with constitutionalist.

Ya, it's still not quite "shall issue" out here, but it's pretty reasonable.

There are currently only 4 vacancies on the 9th.
Total of 29 positions, only 6 are filled by Bush appointments. One is a Reagan appointee, but he was just replaced as Chief in 2014 by a Clinton appointee. Reinhardt is the oldest, a Carter appointment, at 86.

I would hardly call 12 seats out of 29 "stacked"... and sadly, all but one of Obamas appointments are younger than 56, with two being in their mid 40s.

[rickysyxx]

Ya, it's still not quite "shall issue" out here, but it's pretty reasonable.

There are currently only 4 vacancies on the 9th.
Total of 29 positions, only 6 are filled by Bush appointments. One is a Reagan appointee, but he was just replaced as Chief in 2014 by a Clinton appointee. Reinhardt is the oldest, a Carter appointment, at 86.

I would hardly call 12 seats out of 29 "stacked"... and sadly, all but one of Obamas appointments are younger than 56, with two being in their mid 40s.

Looks like our hope will be in SCOTUS. I'm hoping they hear Peruta vs. San Diego. Sad that the 9th is so anti 2A

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[sgtmrangel]

I just received my FL CCW! All I needed was a copy of my DD214, the application completed & notarized, rolled prints from Glendora PD, check for payment amount & a passport phote. The whole process was less than a month. About 3 weeks!!!!

[MrOrange]

Question for the folks who used their DD214 for the training documentation.

In Florida statute 790.06(2)(h)(5), in reference to demonstrating competence with a firearm, it states:

"Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;"

So did you have military qualification(s) for handgun(s) listed on your DD214? Cuz I'm thinking any other qualification wouldn't be "equivalent experience".

[E__WOK]

Question for the folks who used their DD214 for the training documentation.

In Florida statute 790.06(2)(h)(5), in reference to demonstrating competence with a firearm, it states:

"Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;"

So did you have military qualification(s) for handgun(s) listed on your DD214? Cuz I'm thinking any other qualification wouldn't be "equivalent experience".

You're thinking too hard.

If you have a DD-214, just send it to them.

[DevilDawgJJ]

You're thinking too hard.

If you have a DD-214, just send it to them.

THIS^^

[kayej]

Plain old DD-214 works.

You're thinking too hard.

If you have a DD-214, just send it to them.

Just got my CCW from Florida issued and I sent them a DD-214 with no mention of small arms training...just the fact you were in the service and got a DD-214 is good enough.

[MrOrange]

Just got my CCW from Florida issued and I sent them a DD-214 with no mention of small arms training...just the fact you were in the service and got a DD-214 is good enough.

That's rather disturbing.

But thanks to all for the info.

[Cokebottle]

That's rather disturbing.

Why?

A person shouldn't NEED a permit.
If the government is going to require one, then it should be issued to anyone who can truthfully complete a 4473 with the correct answers.

[MrOrange]

Why?

A person shouldn't NEED a permit.
If the government is going to require one, then it should be issued to anyone who can truthfully complete a 4473 with the correct answers.

It's disturbing because having been in the military doesn't mean you've received any training on handguns, or even any safety training at all. I don't think a hunter's safety course should be good for a CCW either, but at least you've probably got some basic safety training.

Needing a permit is another discussion.

[Cokebottle]

It's disturbing because having been in the military doesn't mean you've received any training on handguns, or even any safety training at all. I don't think a hunter's safety course should be good for a CCW either, but at least you've probably got some basic safety training.

Needing a permit is another discussion.

San Bernardino CCW class is barely "training"
The instructor said right up front... My job is not to teach you how to shoot and handle a gun safely. My job is to verify that you can, and to make sure that you are aware of the laws regarding CCW.

Yes, I feel that training is an absolute requirement for someone who is going to carry a handgun in public... but if specific "training" becomes a requirement for carrying, we run the risk of getting into a situation similar to the literacy tests at the polls when Black people were granted the right to vote.... the right can be denied simply because a different standard is applied to a different class of people (the situation in many counties in CA), or the right can be denied to all by simply elevating the requirements beyond a level attainable by a reasonable person.

Training is something that the CCW holder should seek out before, and continue to train after they begin carrying.