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  • Skalinas
    Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 156

    My holster experience so far

    I have ordered concealmentexpress.com’s glock 19 and shield 9 IWB kydex holsters and for that purpose they work perfectly. 3 or 4 oclock. The glocks grip does print a little, so for summer carry i use the shield. Winter carry, glock.

    I ordered a kydex single magazine holster for the shield and it feels like it digs into my side. I carry that spare mag at 9 oclock

    I tried a belly band, but i cant get it to work. The one i ordered is not long enough for my body. The hook and loop system is too weak to hold itself up, keeps coming apart, so i dont trust it.
    Last edited by Skalinas; 12-12-2018, 12:47 AM.
  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23495

    Safariland, DeSantis, or Black Arch horizontal mag pouch. I prefer the Black Arch.

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    • #3
      Skalinas
      Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 156

      That mag pouch looks a lot more comfortable.

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      • #4
        DentonandSasquatchShow
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2018
        • 1343

        Raise your hand if you have a drawer or area filled with holsters.
        I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

        The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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        • #5
          grantar2
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 3581

          Skalinas I think the printing on the Glock can be handled with some adjustment but I need to know more about clothing type and your size.

          As for the mag holster can you post a picture, I might be able to diagnose a solution besides just telling you to buy one of mine.

          Also need to know the type of belly band, only the really cool ones advertised in USCCA and on the IDPA website are traditionally problems. (of course with any ignore the advice to wash in a washing machine, always hand wash). Also they aren't worn around the belly.

          Feel free to call to discuss (949)528-7385

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          • #6
            Roering
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 688

            Originally posted by DentonandSasquatchShow
            Raise your hand if you have a drawer or area filled with holsters.
            Oh yeah. Not sure how many in total but I have 4 for my primary.

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            • #7
              L84CABO
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2009
              • 8655

              Originally posted by DentonandSasquatchShow
              Raise your hand if you have a drawer or area filled with holsters.
              "My holster drawer really isn't that full."

              At least, this the lie I tell myself.
              "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

              Fighter Pilot

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              • #8
                grantar2
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 3581

                You only have a drawer full of holsters because you didn't go to a CCW Solution Provider to try holsters and get fitted.

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                • #9
                  socal m1 shooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 1547

                  Originally posted by grantar2
                  You only have a drawer full of holsters because you didn't go to a CCW Solution Provider to try holsters and get fitted.
                  What are the cons associated with a simple holster like a Bianchi 6, aside from no positive retention feature? I'm using one for a J-frame and another for a compact Glock.
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                  • #10
                    grantar2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 3581

                    Originally posted by socal m1 shooter
                    What are the cons associated with a simple holster like a Bianchi 6, aside from no positive retention feature? I'm using one for a J-frame and another for a compact Glock.
                    Depends on your life style. For most people especially carrying a J-Frame the lack of retention is a non issue. The primary problems with this holster are the clip. It's a pretty standard clip but it's not tuckable, so do you ever need to wear a tucked in shirt without a jacket? Is there any chance you would have to go jacket off if you wore it outside the shirt when tucked in? You can't adjust the can't of the weapon which is great if your standing straight, but in the real world outside of the range in most cases you won't be, you'll be sitting, kneeling behind cover, engage in grappling when needing to draw, but overall it can do the job. Lastly is the issue of collapsing. Unlike a Sticky Holster or Remora which after a draw you remove from your body, reholster in a safe direction and reholster, this model stays put and now post stress or an number of other factors you trying to reholster into a holster that can collapse in. With a J-Frame and stock trigger pull, less of an issue than a striker fired or single action semi-auto where pushing and fitting the gun back in can result in an ND or the safety being moved to off. Lastly you have to make sure this style clip locks under the belt, and isn't over a belt loop.

                    For revolver my main concern are lack of cant and tuckability. Hope that helps.

                    They can be very comfortable.

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                    • #11
                      socal m1 shooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 1547

                      Originally posted by grantar2
                      Depends on your life style. For most people especially carrying a J-Frame the lack of retention is a non issue. The primary problems with this holster are the clip. It's a pretty standard clip but it's not tuckable, so do you ever need to wear a tucked in shirt without a jacket? Is there any chance you would have to go jacket off if you wore it outside the shirt when tucked in? You can't adjust the can't of the weapon which is great if your standing straight, but in the real world outside of the range in most cases you won't be, you'll be sitting, kneeling behind cover, engage in grappling when needing to draw, but overall it can do the job. Lastly is the issue of collapsing. Unlike a Sticky Holster or Remora which after a draw you remove from your body, reholster in a safe direction and reholster, this model stays put and now post stress or an number of other factors you trying to reholster into a holster that can collapse in. With a J-Frame and stock trigger pull, less of an issue than a striker fired or single action semi-auto where pushing and fitting the gun back in can result in an ND or the safety being moved to off. Lastly you have to make sure this style clip locks under the belt, and isn't over a belt loop.

                      For revolver my main concern are lack of cant and tuckability. Hope that helps.

                      They can be very comfortable.
                      Appreciate that.

                      I have a pocket holster if I absolutely need to tuck in my shirt, but I find that to be uncomfortable so I regard it as a last-resort kind of thing. Would you recommend an IWB holster for a J-frame with adjustable cant? Adjustable cant with tuckability? Bianchi 3s has adjustable cant, but no tuckability.
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                      • #12
                        grantar2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 3581

                        Originally posted by socal m1 shooter
                        Appreciate that.

                        I have a pocket holster if I absolutely need to tuck in my shirt, but I find that to be uncomfortable so I regard it as a last-resort kind of thing. Would you recommend an IWB holster for a J-frame with adjustable cant? Adjustable cant with tuckability? Bianchi 3s has adjustable cant, but no tuckability.
                        Well obviously you have to take this with a grain of salt because I am a CCW shop. Holsters and other means of concealment are all I do, I don't sell guns or ammo, and I don't make my own holsters they are either off the shelf or made to my design for me. Having said that my recommendation for a J-Frame IWB tuckable cant adjustable holster is my own Kydex design. The question then is how do you want to attach the holster to you since I have five different clips each used for a different reason. At this point if your curious or interested it's best to call me and discuss. Of course if your in OC you can stop by the shop with your gun and try it on. Always best to try before you buy if at all possible, plus if you want to schedule a consultation we can fit you and make sure it works for you, answer any questions etc.

                        Pocket works OK but as you point out pants pocket can be uncomfortable. Coat pocket is a different equation, especially in cold weather. My complaint with pants pocket is there are to many cases where it's hard to get, hard to operate and becomes less safe (not so much with a j-frame).

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                        • #13
                          socal m1 shooter
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1547

                          Originally posted by grantar2
                          Well obviously you have to take this with a grain of salt because I am a CCW shop. Holsters and other means of concealment are all I do, I don't sell guns or ammo, and I don't make my own holsters they are either off the shelf or made to my design for me. Having said that my recommendation for a J-Frame IWB tuckable cant adjustable holster is my own Kydex design. The question then is how do you want to attach the holster to you since I have five different clips each used for a different reason. At this point if your curious or interested it's best to call me and discuss. Of course if your in OC you can stop by the shop with your gun and try it on. Always best to try before you buy if at all possible, plus if you want to schedule a consultation we can fit you and make sure it works for you, answer any questions etc.

                          Pocket works OK but as you point out pants pocket can be uncomfortable. Coat pocket is a different equation, especially in cold weather. My complaint with pants pocket is there are to many cases where it's hard to get, hard to operate and becomes less safe (not so much with a j-frame).
                          Many thanks, will have a look the next time I am down there. Do you have merchandise on display in the lobby, or is it purely online?
                          iTrader under old CalGuns

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                          • #14
                            grantar2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 3581

                            Originally posted by socal m1 shooter
                            Many thanks, will have a look the next time I am down there. Do you have merchandise on display in the lobby, or is it purely online?
                            Merchandise is on display in the lobby, and your welcome to take anything out of the package and play with it. Having said that if you set up an appointment I am more than happy to come in and help with a fitting discussing strengths and weaknesses. If you have a holster you like but isn't quite right, sometimes we can fix it, adjust it, etc and make it right. The key is having it right, the holster is the last 1.5 seconds in a situation that is out of hand, your life depends on you having your gun, and holster functioning under stress, and post stress.

                            I can get items like concealment clothing, off body carry etc that I don't stock, if there is a special need for such.

                            I have the online store, but that is mainly for follow ups when we have clients at gun shows, or at the law enforcement meetings such as the California Gang Task Force briefings I work. I am sure there are some guys on this forum that can tell you, about my telling them to wait on a holster, or selling them a holster for one gun but discouraging them from buying on for each gun until they were sure it worked for them. Or they weren't sure of the model. Whole number of reasons to come back to us. A lot of people try to sell volume online, I am not one of them because I see myself as a tailor, I am working to solve your need for your comfort and effectiveness. Just like the leading shoe maker makes quality shoes, they make a range because one model isn't right for everyone. Sometimes fitting is more than the numbers.

                            I like to understand the client, suppose you have a J-frame but you have put a grip laser on it, that changes the holster. Suppose you have a Glock 19, and you put a competition extended mag release on the gun. Some holsters that isn't a problem they don't cove the mag release, I do because I build holsters for cops who may be in a grappling match, but I need to know about the custom work to have holster built that will leave the right size pocket and be strong enough to prevent the mag being released. Ordering on line it's just off the rack stuff. Really important to custom work with lefties.

                            Anyway I don't want to bore you, the shop is open six days a week, and we do sell on line, return shipping is on the buyer, but we prefer working with our customer. When was the last time your holster seller wanted to talk clips with you. How do you carry your spare ammo. (J-Frame I usually recommend speed strips and a leatherman type belt holster but there are a couple of tricks to make this happen).

                            Stay safe.

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                            • #15
                              Skalinas
                              Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 156

                              grantar2, i would definitely visit your shop, but it is a long drive from Sacramento down to Los Angeles. About 430 miles.

                              I am sort of overweight but i am losing weight. I have lost about 30lbs of fat in a few months. I think once i get rid of this excess weight it will not be so bad.

                              I have shifted the mag holder a little more towards 8:30 which makes it not dig in as much. As for why i am printing with the glock 19, i think that it is because i am basing the printing off of only wearing a tshirt. Also, it is not really a big deal if you print because no one really notices it. I am more worried about reaching up which makes my shirt go up and completely show the gun off.

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