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  • KulG23
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    • Jun 2011
    • 399

    Ankle Carry and Pocket Carry Q?

    First question: I would like to carry a back up (with Glock 19) and when in business casual attire on my ankle. Any advice on what conceals and carries better on the ankle between these two; Glock 26 or LCR9? Holster I'm considering the Galco Glove.

    Second question: which would be better (or items to consider) for pocket carry (G26 or LCR9)? Thinking about the Nemesis.

    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ITEMS TO CONSIDER AND RECOMMENDATIONS. Please don't just bash on carrying on ankle or recommend different guns.
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    grantar2
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 3581

    Ok I won't bash on the choice assuming you understand the dynamics, probabilities and employment issues with the method of carry for other than a second or third back up.

    For the ankle the G26 is going to be the better choice. (If you put it in the pocket, had better be a custom tailored pocket). The G26 is going to be narrow profile and be a better conceal on the ankle. It's also easier to carry a spare mag, than a speed loader. The LCR9 is going to be lighter. The G26 is going to give you 10 rounds, the LCR9 is going to give you 5. I come from the all things being equal more is better.

    The grip profile on the G26 is better than the LCR9 in my opinion in a close quarters fight, but if I remember correctly the smaller grip profile of the LCR9 will be an advantage in the pocket. It is also a rounded profile with less snagging issues in a pocket.

    If your going to carry both, I would say LCR9 in the pocket and the G26 on the Ankle. I hate giving the superior firepower to the weakest carry position, I think it will ride and holster better there.

    Galco Glove is a nice choice if your not wearing boots. If you wearing boots the Ankle Biter is better.

    Not a fan of the Nemesis, there are a range of better pocket holsters, but if you have had good experience with it, stay the course.
    Last edited by grantar2; 07-06-2015, 11:34 PM.

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      KulG23
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 399

      Thanks, that is great info I was looking for! G19 is my primary carry and want to have an ankle holster as a back up in general and when driving (I carry the G19 at 4:30). When in dress casual, an ankle or pocket (g26 or lcr9) would be my primary. For the glove, do you recommend the calf portion as well? I'm open for the casual dress aspect of a better carry location as well... Was thinking maybe belly band but I have a little bell so thought it may print. The tuck able holsters I have used I have to blouse the shirt to the point it doesn't look professional.

      I have not owned either an ankle or pocket holster before, so I'm not married to the nemesis if you have a better suggestion?

      Originally posted by grantar2
      Ok I won't bash on the choice assuming you understand the dynamics, probabilities and employment issues with the method of carry for other than a second or third back up.

      For the ankle the G26 is going to be the better choice. (If you put it in the pocket, had better be a custom tailored pocket). The G26 is going to be narrow profile and be a better conceal on the ankle. It's also easier to carry a spare mag, than a speed loader. The LCR9 is going to be lighter. The G26 is going to give you 10 rounds, the LCR9 is going to give you 5. I come from the all things being equal more is better.

      The grip profile on the G26 is better than the LCR9 in my opinion in a close quarters fight, but if I remember correctly the smaller grip profile of the LCR9 will be an advantage in the pocket. It is also a rounded profile with less snagging issues in a pocket.

      If your going to carry both, I would say LCR9 in the pocket and the G26 on the Ankle. I hate giving the superior firepower to the weakest carry position, I think it will ride and holster better there.

      Galco Glove is a nice choice if your not wearing boots. If you wearing boots the Ankle Biter is better.

      Not a fan of the Nemesis, there are a range of better pocket holsters, but if you have had good experience with it, stay the course.
      Last edited by KulG23; 07-07-2015, 8:16 AM.

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      • #4
        P5Ret
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 6366

        Speaking from a perspective of a back-up to the G19 either works well. Now mode of carry having done ankle carry the lighter you go the better off you are, especially if it is a back-up not a primary.

        You may want to look at the different holster shirts out there. I've never tried one, but I do know guys that swear by them for their BUGs. For pocket carry at least for me the Nemesis is a bit big in the pocket for my 637. Pocket holsters are one of the ones that you'll buy a few before you find the one that works best for you.

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        • #5
          KulG23
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          • Jun 2011
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          ^thanks!

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            NATEWA
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            • Jun 2012
            • 5977

            I won't bash on ankle carry or suggest a different gun. However, I'd recommend a different way of carrying.

            Maybe try a tuckable holster for the g26? Good luck.

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              KulG23
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              • Jun 2011
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              ^ with my dress shirts, tuck able holsters either print big time or I have to blouse it out to a point it doesn't look professional.

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                NATEWA
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                • Jun 2012
                • 5977

                Originally posted by KulG23
                ^ with my dress shirts, tuck able holsters either print big time or I have to blouse it out to a point it doesn't look professional.
                Lcr9 in a pocket holster with a different grip.

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                  NATEWA
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 5977

                  Originally posted by NATEWA
                  Lcr9 in a pocket holster with a different grip.
                  Maybe a speed strip in the pocket and a speed loader or two in your desk.

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                    NATEWA
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                    • Jun 2012
                    • 5977

                    Originally posted by NATEWA
                    Maybe a speed strip in the pocket and a speed loader or two in your desk.

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                    • #11
                      KulG23
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 399

                      It's looking like g26 ankle and LCR9 in pocket... Not at my desk often, mostly on the road and meetings

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                      • #12
                        BarrettM99
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 2199

                        I wouldn't recommend ankle carry due to the fact that you're hopefully going to be moving in a self defense situation. This would present problems when fumbling around trying to find cover or it will make you a target...until you deploy the firearm from the ankle.

                        I'd go with the pocket carry with a small holster sewn into one of the rear pockets. Quicker deployment means better chance of survival. The way I carry is Appendix my primary G19 and pocket my PM9.

                        You should try all the options and find which works best for you. Then, train it over and over again until it becomes second nature. Your ability to deploy correctly, quickly, and efficiently will be the difference between success and failure.
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                        • #13
                          grantar2
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 3581

                          Originally posted by KulG23
                          Thanks, that is great info I was looking for! G19 is my primary carry and want to have an ankle holster as a back up in general and when driving (I carry the G19 at 4:30). When in dress casual, an ankle or pocket (g26 or lcr9) would be my primary. For the glove, do you recommend the calf portion as well? I'm open for the casual dress aspect of a better carry location as well... Was thinking maybe belly band but I have a little bell so thought it may print. The tuck able holsters I have used I have to blouse the shirt to the point it doesn't look professional.

                          I have not owned either an ankle or pocket holster before, so I'm not married to the nemesis if you have a better suggestion?
                          The pocket holster is really going to be one you want to try on if you can. They are really hopeful. (yes I meant to say hopeful and not helpful).The typical pocket holster works by a leather ridge catching inside the pocket keeping the holster from coming out. (pants). The second type is ballistic nylon and works by being impregnated with silicon that grips the pocket, keeping the holster in place. The last is the friction type which is the Nemesis, but I much prefer either the Remora or Sticky Holster. But again the pocket needs to be able to accommodate them, and there is always the risk the gun doesn't come out clean. In practice an inconvenience in a fight well........... Some will recommend the lanyard with the kydex trigger cover. I see a number of issues with that.

                          On the ankle holster your going to do better with the true ankle than calf. Simply put your leg is an inverse cone, and since the area below the calf is smaller than the calf, I think your in for issues. of course there are harnesses and braces but they are a pain.

                          Belly bands work extremely well, can be had for one or two guns. My basic belly band retails for $18.99 less the Calguns 10% discount, and carry's one gun, and two mags or a mag and a knife or light.

                          A Belly band can be worn on the hips as an IWB, around the stomach and up around the upper chest like a shoulder holster/compression holster.

                          The nice thing about a belly band is it easily indexes to any position. I don't recommend 4:30 for a number of reason but realize it is what some have to use.

                          Remember the higher up on the torso you place the gun the harder it can be to get to in a fight. Around the hips easy pull the shirt untucked with a guick tug with the weak hand (unless using it to fend off the attacker) and draw the weapon. Around the middle pull shirt higher. (In this case you would move the gun to the 3 or 1 position because getting the shirt up high for 4:30 / 5 could allow the gun to catch.

                          Under the arm, means your coming in from the top (neck of a polo) or by ripping the buttons. (or breakaway buttons).

                          You need to answer what kind of shirt your wearing. Is it a polo, dress shirt. Regular cut, euro cut?

                          With it's small handle the LCR9 shouldn't print much if your wearing an IWB single clip tuckable leather holster.

                          Pocket holsters make good backup gun holsters , you see police use them a lot. Last month local Sheriffs seem to have suddenly hit the mother load on Glock 43's and I sold out of that size Sticky Holster in one day. I like them better for jacket pockets.

                          Remember your wrestling experience. If I can get your arm behind you I can control you better. From 1 and 3 you can shoot from retention. That isn't possible behind the 180 position.

                          Going down for the ankle means clearing the pant leg, and being in a down position, not mobile, may take eyes off the treat, so practice frequently.

                          Unlike a LEO we are going for the gun in a IDOL Immediate defense of life situation. i.e the guy is on you, and may have friends. Best if you can try the systems you like on before you buy.

                          By the way, we also carry Packin Tee compression holster t-shirts. These have their place, but again you have to plan to come in from the top or through buttoned area of a shirt. If your wearing a tie this is doable but harder. You also need own more than one, to allow for laundering.


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                          Last edited by grantar2; 07-07-2015, 9:30 PM.

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                          • #14
                            KulG23
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                            • Jun 2011
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                            thanks for all the great advice!

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                            • #15
                              JohnCCW
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                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1307

                              X2 on the pocket holster.
                              First, I go with a small/light gun like polymer .380. Kahr, Ruger, etc.
                              The G26 (I use a G27, or G29) is best for big pockets/jacket, due to its thickness. Tuckable IWB is the most common carry.
                              I can't see using an ankle holster with this size weapon as a primary mode of carry, especially in business attire.
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