Concealed Carry Help

[flyboypadre]

I am attempting to process my Concealed Carry paperwork within Los Angeles county, and while I believe that nothing will happen until after the Supreme Court rules on the Peruta case, I was told by a reliable source to press on with the application. Therefore, I have a couple of questions:

1. I put the following in the Details of Reason for Application... - "Self Protection, in accordance with the 9th Circuit decision regarding Peruta vs. San Diego." Anybody have heartburn with that?

2. I am a Reservist with qualifications in M-9 and M-16/M-4. Will this be accepted as "qualification" for this license.

Like I said above, I expect a long wait time, but I figured that I would post my paperwork now to get in line.

Thanks

[LCU1670]

Self defense as good cause will be a hard sell.

weapons Qualification will be done as part of your approved ccw.

Good luck!

[flyboypadre]

Thanks for the reply. I was told that the justification is null and void with the court's decision. Not true?

[Untamed1972]

I am attempting to process my Concealed Carry paperwork within Los Angeles county, and while I believe that nothing will happen until after the Supreme Court rules on the Peruta case, I was told by a reliable source to press on with the application. Therefore, I have a couple of questions:

1. I put the following in the Details of Reason for Application... - "Self Protection, in accordance with the 9th Circuit decision regarding Peruta vs. San Diego." Anybody have heartburn with that?

2. I am a Reservist with qualifications in M-9 and M-16/M-4. Will this be accepted as "qualification" for this license.

Like I said above, I expect a long wait time, but I figured that I would post my paperwork now to get in line.

Thanks

No.....you will still have to take the state mandated training by an instructor approved by the issuing agency.

[RobertMW]

Thanks for the reply. I was told that the justification is null and void with the court's decision. Not true?

Read the License to Carry forum, this thread will likely be moved there anyway.

But, here is the short story. The decision of the CA-9 is not being applied across the state yet. The court has not officially mandated the lower courts reverse their opinion yet, and county AG's are mostly telling sheriffs to not change their licensing requirements. LA has NOT changed their requirements. Likely no real change will happen until the case hits the US Supreme Court in some manner. Some other counties have loosened up their good cause requirement because of the Peruta decision, but not LA.

[inalienable]

As of right now, self-defense as good cause isn't a hard sell, it's a no sell. Unless you were in a class that would have been granted a permit before Peruta you're not going to get a license in Los Angeles County. The only thing that's changed since Peruta is that instead of outright denial, they are shelving apps that mention self-defense until "Peruta is finalized", whatever that means. This certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't apply; you absolutely should. 1) It will lock up your space in line if/when they are forced to start processing applications and more importantly, IMO 2) It shows solidarity and adds to the numbers so they can no longer claim "why do we even need CCW's...no one even applies for them". To answer your questions directly:

1) I simply put "Self-defense". I don't see anything inherently wrong with what you wrote, but it's superfluous since they are well aware of Peruta.

2) No one has a crystal ball, but I HIGHLY doubt they will accept anything other than a recent certificate, from an approved instructor, with your exact firearm (possibly firearm class...like revolver or semi-auto). By law you can wait to find out if you are approved or not before you're required to take the course though, so you can apply now without having taken it. There is much speculation as to what kind of hoops they may add on to the requirements once they're forced to start processing apps. I'm not in the camp that thinks they are going to go crazy with it (although not impossible), but expect for them to at least require the current list of requirements to be fulfilled to a T.

Glad to hear you're sending it in! The more the better.

- inalienable

[flyboypadre]

Thank you guys. Your advice answers my questions.