Question about CCW revocation

[Woofenstein]

Hello everybody any info would be great...

So, like an idiot my buddy had an accidental discharge of his firearm. Luckily nobody was injured. When the LEO arrived they basically asked what had happened and checked the neighbors to make sure nobody was injured. Long story short they didn't issue him a citation or arrest him. They just told him that it would be an internal report for documenting purposes and that no criminal activity took place. His concerns are:

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?
2. Will this get his ccw revoked?
3. If it does get revoked how would he know?

I am not completely sure so I am reaching out to the community. Thanks.

[Dvrjon]

Kind of difficult to answer, since we don't know the agency, the circumstances of the incident or the length of time the individual has had a CCW.

Here are some completely unfounded ruminations:

(The short version is, "it depends").

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?

Does the agency policy require reports of these incidents? If they do, and he doesn't report, he will have a problem. My sense is that, since you're asking the question, they don't or he doesn't know. I'd probably report it by phone. The reality is that, if they do take action based on the incident, they will do so with or without his input. Better to be honest and up front.

2. Will this get his ccw revoked?
Impossible to tell. It would depend on the policy and the circumstances. Was he quick-drawing for school kids? Has he had the CCW for 30 years or 30 days? It'll make a difference.

3. If it does get revoked how would he know?
The agency will send a letter demanding return of the license. Or they'll call him or they'll come and get it. It depends upon the agency's policy and the perceived danger of the incident.

Good luck.

JR

[nicki]

Depends.

Was the CCW issued by the same agency? If so, if they were going to suspend or revoke the CCW, he probably would be notified.

Bear in mind that accidental discharges eare something that have happened to many police/security officers.

CCW permits used to be a "privilege", but when the dust settles down from the court cases, bearing arms in public will be a "right".

A person who had a CCW could honestly believe that an incident inside their home that only generated an internal report with no charges being filed could be something outside their CCW, especially if the COP told them that it just would be an internal report.

For your friend, consider this a "Life lesson". I bet he is probably a lot more careful, even paranoid about touching his guns now.

Nicki

[ChrisC]

There is no such thing as an accidental discharge, no matter what one might think. It is called negligence.

[SkyHawk]

Can't say much unless you tell us which agency issued the CCW. Do you mind sharing the details of the AD? Maybe some good can come from this if others are more aware and cautious.

[twotacocombo]

Is he required by his IA to report it? If not, don't. No good deed goes unpunished.

[Doheny]

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?

At this point I'd say no because he wasn't carrying outside his home. He should, however, note the situation in the "have you ever been involved in an incident involving firearms" portion of the app when it's time to renew.

2. Will this get his ccw revoked?

Hard to say. Did he tell the police he's a CCW holder? Hopefully they consider it no harm, no foul.

3. If it does get revoked how would he know?

They will notify him somehow and ask for the permit back, or even knock on this door and ask him to surrender it at that time.

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[Leethe4th]

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?
Yes, he has an obligation to report to the IA within 10 business days any contract with LEO, especially if the weapon was fired. There may be a follow up interview.

2. Will this get his ccw revoked?
It might, depends on the IA, and the interview.

3. If it does get revoked how would he know?
The agency will notify hiim to surrender his permit.

Personally anyone who has an AD is an idiot and should not be allowed to touch a gun, let alone carry one. What did he think wouuld happen when you pull the trigger??? The weapon did what it's supposed to do.

[Doheny]

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?
Yes, he has an obligation to report to the IA within 10 business days any contract with LEO, especially if the weapon was fired. There may be a follow up interview.

2. Will this get his ccw revoked?
It might, depends on the IA, and the interview.

3. If it does get revoked how would he know?
The agency will notify hiim to surrender his permit.

Personally anyone who has an AD is an idiot and should not be allowed to touch a gun, let alone carry one. What did he think wouuld happen when you pull the trigger??? The weapon did what it's supposed to do.

Where does it say he has an obligation to report any contact with a LEO within 10 days?

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[cosmos7]

Where does it say he has an obligation to report any contact with a LEO within 10 days?

I'd be interested to know this as well. I know arrests and citations should be reported, but any LEO contact? If no action was taken other than a report seems a little thin...

[LBDamned]

There is no such thing as an accidental discharge, no matter what one might think. It is called negligence.

what about all the Remington 700 being recalled?... it that due to a bunch of negligent discharges?...

[LBDamned]

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?
Yes, he has an obligation to report to the IA within 10 business days any contract with LEO, especially if the weapon was fired. There may be a follow up interview.

2. Will this get his ccw revoked?
It might, depends on the IA, and the interview.

3. If it does get revoked how would he know?
The agency will notify hiim to surrender his permit.

Personally anyone who has an AD is an idiot and should not be allowed to touch a gun, let alone carry one. What did he think wouuld happen when you pull the trigger??? The weapon did what it's supposed to do.

how do you know a trigger was pulled?

[LBDamned]

IYes if you own a Rem 700 and you havn't had the trigger straightened out you are negligent. See Jeff Coopers 4 firearm safety rules.

huh? Remington just recalled a bunch of 700s... how would anyone know the gun would "unintentionally discharge" from touching the safety or cycling the bolt?

Granted, the recall is mostly precautionary - and more than likely part of a settlement... but there are several reports (and video) of the gun firing without touching the trigger. For someone to be expected to know this would happen (prior to the recall), is simply unreasonable.

BTW, the four safety rules will not prevent an unintentional discharge (such as reported from the Rem 700).

[Simi-Surfer]

Hello everybody any info would be great...

So, like an idiot my buddy had an accidental discharge of his firearm. Luckily nobody was injured. When the LEO arrived they basically asked what had happened and checked the neighbors to make sure nobody was injured. Long story short they didn't issue him a citation or arrest him. They just told him that it would be an internal report for documenting purposes and that no criminal activity took place. His concerns are:

1. Should he report this to ccw agency?
2. Will this get his ccw revoked?
3. If it does get revoked how would he know?

I am not completely sure so I am reaching out to the community. Thanks.

You should be more careful handling your firearm.

Don't you just love those "my buddy" had .... questions.

[LBDamned]

You should be more careful handling your firearm.

Don't you just love those "my buddy" had .... questions.

especially from a one post "new" member...