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  • gt350pilot
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 55

    courtesy notification?

    I am going in for my final issuance appointment next week. Once issued I plan to carry everywhere that I legally can. Well, I haven't even got it and already have a question.
    I plan to help coach my sons baseball team this year and carry at practices/games. My issue is that meeting the parents, it appears that one of the parents is a Sac LEO. I understand that if I was pulled over or had interaction with him on duty I would be required to notify. My question is, should I proactively pull him aside and notify him as a courtesy or stay quiet regarding my CCW? If this was a one time interaction I would not bother, but if we are going to interact often I would rather not have him become aware as a surprise. This may be an just another printing worry, but I would rather err to the side of caution rather than have an ugly scene.

    What are the thoughts?
  • #2
    Motorola
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 172

    Stay quiet...till he identifies himself as a peace officer and makes the contact 'official'.

    Stay concealed, and you are under no obligation to inform. Personally, a courtesy notification would be awkward.

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    • #3
      Dvrjon
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2012
      • 11341

      Tell him.

      Basic analysis: what's the worst that can happen for each scenario?

      Tell him.

      That's why you used the word "courtesy".

      JR

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      • #4
        flyinverted
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 368

        The second "C" in CCW is for Concealed. To me, that means visually concealed, and verbally concealed. Once it's revealed, it's not concealed.

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        • #5
          Rockit
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 1337

          You're worrying too much.
          No reason to tell him.

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          • #6
            Old_Bald_Guy
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2901

            This is a no-brainier. Tell him. Run the risk/benefit analysis and you'll see why.
            Like granular silica through an equatorially constricted chronographic vessel, so are the circadian georotations of our metabolic persistences.

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            • #7
              Peter.Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2010
              • 7351

              Incidentally, unless it's a requirement placed by your issuing agency, there's no legal mandate that says you have to notify the cops you have a CCW. They'll figure it out when they run your license - maybe even when they run your plates - but there's no obligation in PC to volunteer the info.

              (Or at least, so says Madera County Sheriff's Office.)
              NRA Life Member

              No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                Old_Bald_Guy
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 2901

                Last edited by Old_Bald_Guy; 02-23-2014, 10:55 AM.
                Like granular silica through an equatorially constricted chronographic vessel, so are the circadian georotations of our metabolic persistences.

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                • #9
                  gt350pilot
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 55

                  Thank you all for your replies. I am sorry that I was not specific to the fact that I will be issued in Sacramento county, thus I will be required to notify upon official interaction with LE.
                  My concern rose from picturing a scenario where he may become aware or suspect that I am carrying. Coupled with the fact that I would be in close proximity to his child, it could lead to a very bad reaction. Thus the question posed here.
                  I am fortunate to have a number of friends and neighbors that are LEOs, a few of which that I shoot with on a regular basis. They have all been very supportive of my decision to get a CCW. Because of these positive interactions I was hopeful that if I was up front with this particular individual we could be sure not to have a worse case scenario.
                  Thanks for your collective knowledge and I will post when and if we cross that bridge.

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                  • #10
                    newair
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 226

                    Gt350pilot. I understand your concern due to the fa t that ayy some point in time he may seen your weapon. Yes that could get uncomfortable.
                    Personally from a parents point of view I would be extremely concerned about someone. Carrying a weapon while coaching my kids. Has the potential to draw more media attention than you could imagine.
                    And I know several Leo's very well who coach and have for many years. And never with a weapon on their side. Personally I would put your rights asside for a moment and take a good look at your motives and concerns.

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                    • #11
                      cranemech
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1728

                      If you decide to notify this LEO parent and if you practice on school property, I would have some facts readily available regarding the CCW exemption to the GFSZ. This may prevent bad things from happening as he may not be up on all the relevant info.
                      "Stupid should hurt" - Armstrong and Getty show

                      A lie about a wrongdoing becomes your future. The truth about a wrongdoing becomes your past. - Unknown

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                      • #12
                        Old_Bald_Guy
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2901

                        ^This. It's a very distinct possibility that he's unaware.
                        At least, however, the guy works for SSD and can be assumed to have at least some knowledge of the fact that his agency issues them.
                        Like granular silica through an equatorially constricted chronographic vessel, so are the circadian georotations of our metabolic persistences.

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                        • #13
                          Old_Bald_Guy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2901

                          Originally posted by newair
                          Gt350pilot. I understand your concern due to the fa t that ayy some point in time he may seen your weapon. Yes that could get uncomfortable.

                          Personally from a parents point of view I would be extremely concerned about someone. Carrying a weapon while coaching my kids. Has the potential to draw more media attention than you could imagine.

                          And I know several Leo's very well who coach and have for many years. And never with a weapon on their side. Personally I would put your rights asside for a moment and take a good look at your motives and concerns.

                          Some good points here. I replied under the assumption that the OP had decided to carry and his only question was regarding notification. Assessing the decision to carry at all while coaching is a good idea. I'm sure the hardcore "carry 24/7" crowd will chime in contrarily, but it really is a risk/benefit decision that doesn't always fit into a neatly defined box.
                          Like granular silica through an equatorially constricted chronographic vessel, so are the circadian georotations of our metabolic persistences.

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                          • #14
                            Edgy01
                            Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 145

                            I would seriously consider the risks of having your piece exposed inadvertently. Wouldn't just the time you're out there be okay to leave it secured in your vehicle? If you perceived a change to the threat conditions in your area, you could elect to carry it at selective times. Does the LEO that will be at that scene carry his piece all the time, including off duty? (Or is it also concealed?) I would tailor it to his choice. The less said, the better.

                            Dan

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                            • #15
                              jlbflyboy172
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 625

                              The LEO may mention to another parent and then it becomes wide spread knowledge and you could have some splaining to do to a whole bunch of people and the school administrators, etc. I would be for just keeping it concealed. That means concealed. Make sure your wardrobe can make that very doable and carry on. Remember that the mass murders we hear about almost all happen in gun free zones. You will be in one. Why put aside your own safety in deference to others. It may be low risk but there are plenty of victims around this country that would give you a very clear picture about what "you never know when" means. Bad guys don't always look like bad guys and they don't keep 8-5 hours. Good luck in what ever you choose and please let us know what you decide and how it goes. I have carried in class rooms and at school ball games for years without issue.

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