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Hey Folks! I am familiar with the CalGuns site through my research into how California Law applies to me in both my private life and employment, however, I have only newly registered to the site. The previous thread regarding the restrictions that a licensed armed security guard faces under California law has led me to believe that members to this site might be able to assist me in a employment related issue.
A little background into myself: I am currently performing armed contract security work at federal facilities in the greater Los Angeles area. While some federal agencies believe that California law is limited on their sites, all California laws are applicable to me while I am in transit to and from my work place. I originally got into the Security Industry at age 19, thinking that it would be a good starting place for a career in law enforcement. A few years into applying to law enforcement agencies, I came to believe that I am far to stubborn to submit to authority, and that I have no taste for having others submit to my authority.
Often the federal contract I work under switches hands and a new employer comes in with their take on how California law applies to armed security. To date, all but one of these contractors have been based out of California. The current contractor believes that employees on my contract should arrive on federal property and leave federal property in full uniform and full gear with their firearms loaded and holstered on their hips. When California Laws are applied, this policy would require the employee to transport the weapon in said condition from home to work and directly back to home after work without any detour. As I am not being paid for my time to and from work, I take issue with remaining under my employer's control for that time period.
Ultimately, I want to be able to use my off-duty time as anyone else would. Transporting the weapon with the ammo and firearm separated and the weapon locked up in the back of my vehicle would do the trick, but my employer is setting up a situation that restricts my movement and appearance for a period that exceeds my paid time for around an hour per shift. What options do I have that still comply with state law? Can I load or unload in my vehicle while parked on the side of a public road on my way to and when leaving work? Aside from the fact that anyone who witnesses me loading and unloading might take issue with it, does it violate California Law? Historically, this contractor has terminated employees who have shown up to the worksite prior to a shift with uniform shirt off and weapon transported legally unloaded. Any suggestions on how I can legally have control over that portion of my unpaid time?
Thanks in advance,
SecurityGuy
A little background into myself: I am currently performing armed contract security work at federal facilities in the greater Los Angeles area. While some federal agencies believe that California law is limited on their sites, all California laws are applicable to me while I am in transit to and from my work place. I originally got into the Security Industry at age 19, thinking that it would be a good starting place for a career in law enforcement. A few years into applying to law enforcement agencies, I came to believe that I am far to stubborn to submit to authority, and that I have no taste for having others submit to my authority.
Often the federal contract I work under switches hands and a new employer comes in with their take on how California law applies to armed security. To date, all but one of these contractors have been based out of California. The current contractor believes that employees on my contract should arrive on federal property and leave federal property in full uniform and full gear with their firearms loaded and holstered on their hips. When California Laws are applied, this policy would require the employee to transport the weapon in said condition from home to work and directly back to home after work without any detour. As I am not being paid for my time to and from work, I take issue with remaining under my employer's control for that time period.
Ultimately, I want to be able to use my off-duty time as anyone else would. Transporting the weapon with the ammo and firearm separated and the weapon locked up in the back of my vehicle would do the trick, but my employer is setting up a situation that restricts my movement and appearance for a period that exceeds my paid time for around an hour per shift. What options do I have that still comply with state law? Can I load or unload in my vehicle while parked on the side of a public road on my way to and when leaving work? Aside from the fact that anyone who witnesses me loading and unloading might take issue with it, does it violate California Law? Historically, this contractor has terminated employees who have shown up to the worksite prior to a shift with uniform shirt off and weapon transported legally unloaded. Any suggestions on how I can legally have control over that portion of my unpaid time?
Thanks in advance,
SecurityGuy
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