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  • #16
    viet4lifeOC
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 4887

    answers?

    Originally posted by flyinverted
    viet4lifeoc, do you recall what the process was like?

    1. Make appointment
    Things have definitely changed since I applied. For one, they hired another person to work full time to handle the CCW desk. So it's Melissa and Yolanda. They are both great, down to earth people who are professional and encouraging. I can't say enough good things about them.
    2. Initial meeting / application turn in
    I turned in my application at the appointment. I tend to speak freely and say what's on my mind. We were just having a friendly conversation. I asked Melissa, "what's the interview like? Will I get grilled?". To my surprise, she said, "This is the interview.". We both laugh. It was so laid back. She informed me that I was missing some documents. Told me to save time by faxing them to her. She sent me an email verifying that my application was complete once she received the fax.
    3. Take CCW class
    There are three CCW classes that are approved. I wanted to take the class with TJ Johnston, but took it from Firearms Training Associate in Corona (Rauuga???) due to scheduling conflict. What can I say? Shooting guns--fun. Cost wise they are very much the same. Knowing what I know now...TJs class focuses on CCW...shooting from a concealed holster;whereas, FTA students were using open holsters. OCSD highly encourages you to take the class AFTER you are conditionally approved. You don't get brownie points for taking one prior to applying. Save your money and wait.
    4. Another appointment to turn in class completion certificate?
    You turn in the class certificate at your final meeting with CCW desk. Melissa/Yolanda will check your certificate, your OCSD weapons inspection letter, and verify your name/address/handguns' make/model/caliber/serial number. AT THIS FINAL APPOINTMENT YOU DO NOT BRING IN YOUR CCW WEAPONS. You pay your local fee via cash or check. SMILE (damn hard not to be GIDDY )...she takes your picture. Wait 5-8 minutes and hands you your CCW card. DONE.


    When does the armorer inspect your guns? How long does that take?
    You set an appointment by calling OCSD armory AFTER the completion of your 16 hours CCW class. The number is listed in the application packet. The OCSD armory is near the Honda Center. Two sheriffs work here. Dwayne is an African-American. Dude, is such a nice guy. He allowed me in the armory just to chit chat. Taught me how to use Frog lube and how the OCSD cleans their guns. Wish I could buy him a sandwich/coffee but he won't accept because it's against policy. Then there's Lance. I hear he's a "hard ***," but I found him to be quick, straight to the point, and professional during my CCW weapons inspection during my renewal. They don't bring out a pull gauge unless it's a very light trigger (less than 4.5 pounds). Should take no more than 30-45 minutes. Appts are done once or twice a week in the early mornings (because of work...my appointments were always at 7 am).

    Once the armorer gives the green light, what's next?
    He checks out your gun. GUNS MUST BE CLEAN. First time, I detailed strip/clean..easy pass. At renewal, I just field strip and clean and Lance gave me the OK. Then the armorer verifies the guns' make, model, caliber, and serial number. This form is in your application. You fill it out and bring the form (and the guns and one empty magazine for each) to the CCW weapons inspection. Dwayne or Lance signs each gun if it's approve. If it's not , no worries. You go home..make changes and make another appointment. It's not fail done deal thing. Once this form is completed you set an appt with Melissa/Yolanda. Bring the Training certificate and signed CCW weapons inspection form to the FINAL appointment.

    So what do they want? Clean gun...no laser... Trigger pull 4.5 pounds or higher.

    In another thread..I have pictures of my highly modified glock 19 that I did myself. That was my ticket in the Armory to chit chat with Dwayne. If my glock 19 of a monstrosity was acceptable...I can't see what would get rejected (don't dremel the trigger guard to nonexistence).

    By the order of your questions...you're almost right.

    1) Bring in completed application at interview.
    2) bring, fax, or mail in supporting documents/copies if needed.
    3) if you get conditionally approved...fingerprinting.
    4) 16 hours CCW training
    5) OCSD armory weapons inspection
    6) final meeting with CCW desk for permit to be handed out.

    NOTE...most of the incurred cost occurs after you've been accepted.
    Hope that helps. Let's do this people.
    Last edited by viet4lifeOC; 02-22-2014, 5:25 PM.

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    • #17
      mamono
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      • Feb 2014
      • 429

      Can you use off roster handguns for CCW? I.e. Glock 19 gen 4


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      • #18
        gvazquez
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        • Jan 2009
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        Originally posted by mamono
        Can you use off roster handguns for CCW? I.e. Glock 19 gen 4


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        +1 Need to know before I make my purchase...
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        • #19
          viet4lifeOC
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          • May 2010
          • 4887

          Originally posted by mamono
          Can you use off roster handguns for CCW? I.e. Glock 19 gen 4


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          Yes. It's on my current CCW permit.

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          • #20
            viet4lifeOC
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4887

            Wow..actually all three of my guns are off roster.

            M&P Shield 9mm
            Glock 19 gen 4 9mm
            Walther PPQ M1 9MM

            The Sheriff doesn't care nor checks if it's off roster or not.

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            • #21
              ACI
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 58

              Originally posted by viet4lifeOC
              Wow..actually all three of my guns are off roster.

              M&P Shield 9mm
              Glock 19 gen 4 9mm
              Walther PPQ M1 9MM

              The Sheriff doesn't care nor checks if it's off roster or not.
              They do check to make sure the gun is registered to you, though.

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              • #22
                viet4lifeOC
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 4887

                Originally posted by ACI
                They do check to make sure the gun is registered to you, though.
                That's correct. That takes place at the last appointment. Remember, up to that point the CCW desk has no idea what gun will go on your permit. I recall Melissa looking up DOJ for registered handgun as she was looking at the signed OCSD CCW weapons inspection form. That's the first time CCW desk sees what's going on the he permit. Would SUCK if it's not registered to you. Don't be "that guy."

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                • #23
                  mamono
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 429

                  Does it matter if the off roster handgun used for CCW has a DROS SSE, but was returned to factory operation? Would they check for that at the OCSD Armory Weapons Inspection?

                  I guess this adds some light to what I've asked:


                  And the following makes sense, though I still wonder because I have not read or seen anything to the contrary.

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  An off-Roster handgun is an off-Roster handgun is an off-Roster handgun.

                  Put new grips on your 1911? It's off-Roster now.

                  Get your CZ Cerakoted? off-Roster.

                  Put an aftermarket barrel on your Glock? off-Roster.

                  'On-Roster' is not a legal requirement for anything but dealers selling to non-exempt people. The Roster is no certification of anything regarding use.

                  A state prosecutor should know this, and likely would not bother; in a private 'wrongful death' suit, the plaintiff's attorney might try any number of approaches.

                  I suppose this thread answers the question:
                  http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=sse+ccw


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                  Last edited by mamono; 02-23-2014, 7:42 AM. Reason: Added info from another thread regarding CCW and SSE.
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                  • #24
                    Librarian
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                    Originally posted by mamono
                    Does it matter if the off roster handgun used for CCW has a DROS SSE, but was returned to factory operation? Would they check for that at the OCSD Armory Weapons Inspection?
                    Based on inspection, how would someone know? Answer: they wouldn't - can't distinguish an SSE gun restored to factory spec from a PPT gun of the same model that never went SSE.
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                    • #25
                      Doheny
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 13820

                      Orange County's inspection is primarily for trigger pull (it needs to be 4.5 pounds or greater). They don't care if your gun is rostered or not.


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