Conversion barrels for EDC

[greentriple]

Presuming changing a .40 cal to 9 mm presents no legal issues for CCW, what are your thoughts on conversion barrels for CCW?

Who thinks it could be a legal issue in CA, and why?

Background: EDC g23 or g27. Recent training has lead me to seriously consider 9 mm for EDC (I do not want a discussion about which round is better for SD). I'm debating buying new guns in 9 mm, and thus effectively replacing .40 cal. (CA only allows 3 guns on permit). I'm hesitant to use conversion barrels b/c I don't want to worry about failures do to the product, I know g23 & g27 will go bang and presume g19 will do the same.

So who trusts their lives and that of their family members to conversion barrels, and why? And who does not, and why?

[Librarian]

Presuming changing a .40 cal to 9 mm presents no legal issues for CCW, what are your thoughts on conversion barrels for CCW?

Who thinks it could be a legal issue in CA, and why?

Background: EDC g23 or g27. Recent training has lead me to seriously consider 9 mm for EDC (I do not want a discussion about which round is better for SD). I'm debating buying new guns in 9 mm, and thus effectively replacing .40 cal. (CA only allows 3 guns on permit). I'm hesitant to use conversion barrels b/c I don't want to worry about failures do to the product, I know g23 & g27 will go bang and presume g19 will do the same.

So who trusts their lives and that of their family members to conversion barrels, and why? And who does not, and why?

PC says

(i) Any license issued upon the application shall set forth the
licensee's name, occupation, residence and business address, the
licensee's age, height, weight, color of eyes and hair, and the
reason for desiring a license to carry the weapon, and shall, in
addition, contain a description of the weapon or weapons authorized
to be carried, giving the name of the manufacturer, the serial
number, and the caliber. The license issued to the licensee may be
laminated.

Change the caliber, not the same gun listed on your LTC, so carrying illegally.

You would need to get your issuing agency to list both/all calibers the numbered frame might use.

[ElDub1950]

PC says Change the caliber, not the same gun listed on your LTC, so carrying illegally.

You would need to get your issuing agency to list both/all calibers the numbered frame might use.

^ This. I'm going to ask my SO if they can list 2 calibers for each serial#.

Until then, I don't carry with my 9mm conversion barrel.

[greentriple]

I believe this is correct as well. But, that aside, what about using conversion for EDC?

[ElDub1950]

(CA only allows 3 guns on permit).

Isn't this up to you county SO?

The DOJ application Section 3 where you list the firearms has 3 lines but includes the statement "Use additional pages if necessary"

[HighLander51]

So who trusts their lives and that of their family members to conversion barrels, and why? And who does not, and why?

No one. I have seen plenty of these in competition over the last several years and none of them run consistently. But it doesn't matter if it quits in the game. And I am not talking about someone who shoots 50 rounds thru a conversion from the bench 2 times a year.

If it fails to go bang, and it will eventually, even with the correct ejector and extractor, who is at fault? Glock will say it's the conversion barrel, the aftermarket barrel maker will say it's your fault, and why would any issueing agency approve an aftermarket part? especially a conversion barrel.

Now if you just want to practice with a conversion barrel at the range, then put the factory one back in for carry, no big deal.

[imabird]

+1 I have a 9mm conversion barrel for my G22 (.40 SW). Just fine for honing skills cheaply at the range but I would never consider carrying in the 9mm configuration. Why???

[jb7706]

No one. I have seen plenty of these in competition over the last several years and none of them run consistently. But it doesn't matter if it quits in the game. And I am not talking about someone who shoots 50 rounds thru a conversion from the bench 2 times a year.

If it fails to go bang, and it will eventually, even with the correct ejector and extractor, who is at fault? Glock will say it's the conversion barrel, the aftermarket barrel maker will say it's your fault, and why would any issueing agency approve an aftermarket part? especially a conversion barrel.

Now if you just want to practice with a conversion barrel at the range, then put the factory one back in for carry, no big deal.

There are several members of this forum that have conversion barrels listed on their license. I agree with you that it's not the best idea from a reliability standpoint.

We don't want/need IA saying what aftermarket parts we may or may not use. It's none of their business for one, and they are not arms experts. The PC should be amended to remove the silly make/model/serial/caliber restriction altogether IMO.

[PolishMike]

I would not trust my life on any of the available conversion barrels out there. Getting two guns vs a conversion barrel is the way to go.

[greentriple]

Thanks.

[greentriple]

Thanks.

[greentriple]

Thanks everyone who's replied.

[HighLander51]

There are several members of this forum that have conversion barrels listed on their license. I agree with you that it's not the best idea from a reliability standpoint.

We don't want/need IA saying what aftermarket parts we may or may not use. It's none of their business for one, and they are not arms experts. The PC should be amended to remove the silly make/model/serial/caliber restriction altogether IMO.

I don't know if anyone here is running a conversion barrel on their CCW, or not, but I know that my county will not approve it.

So who here has a conversion barrel approved on their permit? and from which county?

[Sacmedic]

I agree, these are not the best idea. But, why wouldn't an IA approve one on your LTC? If you have a malfunction I wouldn't think they care.

[Brian1979]

Our Dept specifically addressed this and said DONT DO IT.