Renewal training = 16 or 8 hours?

[mk2dave]

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it sounded incorrect. I'm glad to hear it is.

[Lady Ruger]

My point was given how little gun handling and actual shooting many people do before taking a CCW class, a review of good practices goes a long way to ensuring a safe qual shoot.

Case in point: In my initial class, which was 8 hours (before SB2), 50% of the students had only fired their weapon once or twice before attending the class. I was in the other 50%. The instructor did a good review and safety talk before we did the shoot. While it was 'old hat' stuff for me and the other experienced shooters, the new folks had a more successful qual than they otherwise would have had.
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L84CABO, there appears to be a difference between your comment:



And Lady Ruger's quote above:



Do the statements differ because IA's have different requirements for the curricula their approved instructors teach? Serious question. I am not saying either statement is incorrect.
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I never anything more than it makes no sense.

[Lady Ruger]

I think that was my quote, not Lady Ruger’s, and it came straight out of Penal Code 26165 (2).

That means all curricula of all IAs and all trainers must contain these aspects.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26165.

Wasn't me!

[Mute]

Why?

The shooting portion of the CCW class is a qualification test only. And you're expected to have basic gun handling proficiency and the ability to pass the test before you get to class.

There is no part of the classroom instruction that covers gun handling, weapons manipulation, etc., or anything that would help you in the shooting test in any way. It's completely irrelevant which one goes first.

Ideally that would be the case, but on my first go around, in the CCW class I attended there were applicants who still had their CCW gun in the box and touching it for the first time since they picked it up at the FFL. For the first time applicant classes the trainer should have the approach that the students are complete newbies until they've demonstrated that they are experienced.