Does SB 2 change how you keep your guns inside home and inside vehicles?

[Ishooter]

I'm wondering if SB 2 change how ccw permit holders can store their guns inside home and vehicles.

1. Do the guns need to be unloaded inside home when you're home?
2. Is CA approved gun safe/container required at home?
3. If you leave your vehicle and leave the guns in the vehicle temporarily, do the guns need to unloaded?
4. Continued from no. 3, do the guns need to be locked in a container or case?
5. Continued from no. 4, is CA approved gun safe/container required?

Thanks.

[Rumblemonkey]

They are DOJ approved lock boxes, afixed to the vehicle, not visable from outside, not CA approved. I believe loaded is OK in the box. Much on this, use the search functon.

[jben]

Nothing changed at home.
Nothing really changed in the car, except there are places you can't have the gun.
In your car, where allowed, loaded gun in a locked container out of plain view.

[Snoopy47]

Either way.......... It's best to keep the firearm in the car in a possible condition a NON CCW holder would be allowed to have it.

I almost left my CCW loaded in the car, and my wife started to drive off. I chased her down and retrieved it. WORST case I would simply phone her the combo and she could UNLOAD IT.

It's not UNLAWFUL for her as a non prohibited person to travel around with an unloaded gun in a lock box in the back of the car. But if Loaded??????? Not good for her if stopped.

[Quiet]

I'm wondering if SB 2 change how ccw permit holders can store their guns inside home and vehicles.

1. Do the guns need to be unloaded inside home when you're home?
2. Is CA approved gun safe/container required at home?
3. If you leave your vehicle and leave the guns in the vehicle temporarily, do the guns need to unloaded?
4. Continued from no. 3, do the guns need to be locked in a container or case?
5. Continued from no. 4, is CA approved gun safe/container required?

Thanks.

If you have a valid CA CCW permit and the handguns are listed on your CA CCW permit, then...
1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.

[Ishooter]

If you have a valid CA CCW permit and the handguns are listed on your CA CCW permit, then...
1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.

I'd like to confirm that when no. 5 is yes, then is CA approved gun safe/container required in the vehicle?

[Notpc]

I'd like to confirm that when no. 5 is yes, then is CA approved gun safe/container required in the vehicle?

Yes

Here is a list of CA approved safety devices. I have a SnapSafe (Large - 75200) in all of my vehicles.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-safety-devices/search-results

[CSACANNONEER]

I'd like to confirm that when no. 5 is yes, then is CA approved gun safe/container required in the vehicle?

The law says "a locked container which is fully enclosed" or something like that. I know of NO CA LAW that requires firearms to be in a CA approved container. IF someone knows a law that says that, PLEASE cite the actual law for all of us to read!

[Notpc]

The law says "a locked container which is fully enclosed" or something like that. I know of NO CA LAW that requires firearms to be in a CA approved container. IF someone knows a law that says that, PLEASE cite the actual law for all of us to read!

SB2 section 29, as far as I know this was not stopped by the injunction.

(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), except under paragraph (21) or (28) of subdivision (a), a licensee may transport a firearm and ammunition within their vehicle so long as the firearm is locked in a lock box, as defined in subdivision (y) of Section 4082 and subdivision (b) of Section 4094 of Title 11 of the California Code of Regulations, and the lock box is a firearm safety device, as defined in Section 16540, that is listed on the department’s Roster of Firearm Safety Devices Certified for Sale pursuant to Sections 23650 and 23655. Nothing in this subdivision is intended to preempt local laws placing more restrictive requirements upon the storage of firearms in vehicles.

[broadside]

SB2 section 29, as far as I know this was not stopped by the injunction.

This is a point of confusion for many. The approved lock box is only required for CCW holders with guns on their permit. It's not required for non CCW users. It's stupid, as are most things that come out of gov't.

[Rickybillegas]

Just a heads up on no.2 The answer is no for now, but that will change this coming January 2026 SB53 requires firearms not in use (or under the control of the owner) to be in a DOJ lock box, safe or trigger device.

[Notpc]

Just a heads up on no.2 The answer is no for now, but that will change this coming January 2026 SB53 requires firearms not in use (or under the control of the owner) to be in a DOJ lock box, safe or trigger device.

There is an exemption for us folks that have had a gun safe for years.......

(2) A person shall not be penalized for violating this section if they secure their firearm using a firearm safety device or gun safe that they reasonably believed to meet the requirements of this section, including a firearm safety device that was certified at the time the individual purchased the device or a safe that met the standards for gun safes adopted pursuant to Section 23650 at the time the individual purchased the safe.

[Rickybillegas]

There is an exemption for us folks that have had a gun safe for years.......

I wonder how you find out if your old safe meets the 'reasonably believed' standard. That's pretty obtuse. And looking up 23650 didn't help. I have an old Herring-Hall-Marvin T-20 tool resistant safe I keep my pistols in.

[Rickybillegas]

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