Back ground history

[12GAUGE]

I am thinking of applying for my CCW in Glendora. I am 56 and defiantly can not remember every interaction or dates with Leo's. Is there a site or resource you would use to get a RAP sheet on your history? Don't want to be denied because of a ticket 10 years ago
They already have all the information they need on you at their disposal seems redundant to have to list it as well.

[Snoopy47]

I am thinking of applying for my CCW in Glendora. I am 56 and defiantly can not remember every interaction or dates with Leo's. Is there a site or resource you would use to get a RAP sheet on your history? Don't want to be denied because of a ticket 10 years ago
They already have all the information they need on you at their disposal seems redundant to have to list it as well.

You can get your driving history from the DMV itself. I'm not aware the investigators are going to go any farther with the DMV than you personally can.

Answer the questions asked, don't elaborate.

If you forgot that you were arrested, put in the back of a police car, or had a restraining order against you then that's on you. If you have that kind of stuff you might have forgot about, then maybe hire a PI against yourself.

[12GAUGE]

You can get your driving history from the DMV itself. I'm not aware the investigators are going to go any farther with the DMV than you personally can.

Answer the questions asked, don't elaborate.

If you forgot that you were arrested, put in the back of a police car, or had a restraining order against you then that's on you. If you have that kind of stuff you might have forgot about, then maybe hire a PI against yourself.

I ran the DMV and nothing showed up, knowing I have previous tickets years ago. Its not about not remembering but if they want specific infractions and dates ,then ya would need that info. That is at least the impression I was under.

[Quiet]

You can go to a CA County Court website and do a criminal history search on yourself.

The search will turn up any traffic tickets or arrests that occurred to you within that County.

Conduct this search with every County Court website that you may have had law enforcement contact in.

[Snoopy47]

I absolutely believe you. I just checked myself of an absolute known moving violation citation in a know county, but nothing showed up, but we are talking upwards of 20 years ago. So there seems to be a limit, all be it defined time period, or technology (record keeping) limitations.

In fact, I don't remember my background even going down that path. They wanted recent stuff DMV wise, or items I was possibly named in a police report as either the complainant or suspect.

Anyway............ I looked myself up in the county I remember having the most citations in any given period of time, and nothing came up. But we are talking early 2000's here (yellow crotch rockets are cop magnets, I would catch them in my rear view mirror stalking me).

You can go to a CA County Court website and do a criminal history search on yourself.

The search will turn up any traffic tickets or arrests that occurred to you within that County.

Conduct this search with every County Court website that you may have had law enforcement contact in.

[Quiet]

I absolutely believe you. I just checked myself of an absolute known moving violation citation in a know county, but nothing showed up, but we are talking upwards of 20 years ago. So there seems to be a limit, all be it defined time period, or technology (record keeping) limitations.

In fact, I don't remember my background even going down that path. They wanted recent stuff DMV wise, or items I was possibly named in a police report as either the complainant or suspect.

Anyway............ I looked myself up in the county I remember having the most citations in any given period of time, and nothing came up. But we are talking early 2000's here (yellow crotch rockets are cop magnets, I would catch them in my rear view mirror stalking me).

It's when that specific County Court started digitizing their records.

There is a process to request a paper records search, which checks the County Courts archives (non-digital records).

[G-forceJunkie]

Am I forgetting something, but I recall the CCW app (LASD) only asking about driving infractions going back like 5 or 7 years.

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Am I forgetting something, but I recall the CCW app (LASD) only asking about driving infractions going back like 5 or 7 years.

Under CA laws [PC 26175(a)(1)(A)], the CA CCW permit application requires all traffic violations in the last 5 years to be reported.

[TnTzDad]

I've been "in line" for 15 months for my CCW in San Diego. I had my in-person appointment in early December and just got an email asking for the reason I received an Other Than Honorable discharge from the service. The form simply states "Misconduct". In no way am I proud of my discharge type or the circumstances behind it. It was 21 years ago and a lot has changed since then. I've worked on military installations after having passed live scan screenings and was also given a CCW in Texas within 45 days in 2015. For those that might know, is there any reason I should have to disclose the exact nature of my discharge beyond what is on the official form?

[Quiet]

I've been "in line" for 15 months for my CCW in San Diego. I had my in-person appointment in early December and just got an email asking for the reason I received an Other Than Honorable discharge from the service. The form simply states "Misconduct". In no way am I proud of my discharge type or the circumstances behind it. It was 21 years ago and a lot has changed since then. I've worked on military installations after having passed live scan screenings and was also given a CCW in Texas within 45 days in 2015. For those that might know, is there any reason I should have to disclose the exact nature of my discharge beyond what is on the official form?

CA laws pertaining to CA CCW issuance were changed, effective 01-01-2024.

The issuing agency is asking for more information in order to determine if you are a disqualified person per the new CA laws. [PC 26150(a)(1) and 26202]




Penal Code 26150
(a) When a person applies for a new license or license renewal to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the sheriff of a county shall issue or renew a license to that person upon proof of all of the following:
(1) The applicant is not a disqualified person to receive such a license, as determined in accordance with the standards set forth in Section 26202.
(2) The applicant is at least 21 years of age, and presents clear evidence of the person?s identity and age, as defined in Section 16400.
(3) The applicant is a resident of the county or a city within the county, or the applicant?s principal place of employment or business is in the county or a city within the county and the applicant spends a substantial period of time in that place of employment or business. Prima facie evidence of residency within the county or a city within the county includes, but is not limited to, the address where the applicant is registered to vote, the applicant?s filing of a homeowner?s property tax exemption, and other acts, occurrences, or events that indicate presence in the county or a city within the county is more than temporary or transient. The presumption of residency in the county or city within the county may be rebutted by satisfactory evidence that the applicant?s primary residence is in another county or city within the county.
(4) The applicant has completed a course of training as described in Section 26165.
(5) The applicant is the recorded owner, with the Department of Justice, of the pistol, revolver, or other firearm for which the license will be issued.

Penal Code 26202
(a) Unless a court makes a contrary determination pursuant to Section 26206, an applicant shall be deemed to be a disqualified person and cannot receive or renew a license pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 if the applicant:
(1) Is reasonably likely to be a danger to self, others, or the community at large, as demonstrated by anything in the application for a license or through the investigation described in subdivision (b), or as shown by the results of any psychological assessment, including, but not limited to, the assessment described in subdivision (e) of Section 26190.
(2) Has been convicted of contempt of court under Section 166.
(3) Has been subject to any restraining order, protective order, or other type of court order issued pursuant to the following statutory provisions, unless that order expired or was vacated or otherwise canceled more than five years prior to the licensing authority receiving the completed application:
(A) Section 646.91 or Part 3 (commencing with Section 6240) of Division 10 of the Family Code.
(B) Part 4 (commencing with Section 6300) of Division 10 of the Family Code.
(C) Sections 136.2 and 18100.
(D) Section 527.6, 527.8, or 527.85 of the Code of Civil Procedure.
(E) Section 213.5, 304, 362.4, 726.5, or 15657.03 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.
(4) In the 10 years prior to the licensing authority receiving the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, has been convicted of an offense listed in Section 422.6, 422.7, 422.75, or 29805.
(5) Has engaged in an unlawful or reckless use, display, or brandishing of a firearm.
(6) In the 10 years prior to the licensing authority receiving the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, has been charged with any offense listed in Section 290, 667.5, 1192.7, 1192.8, or 29805 that was dismissed pursuant to a plea or dismissed with a waiver pursuant to People v. Harvey (1979) 25 Cal.3d 754.
(7) In the five years prior to the licensing authority receiving the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, has been committed to or incarcerated in county jail or state prison for, or on probation, parole, postrelease community supervision, or mandatory supervision as a result of, a conviction of an offense, an element of which involves controlled substances, as described in Sections 11053 to 11058, inclusive, of the Health and Safety Code, or alcohol.
(8) Is currently abusing controlled substances, as described in Sections 11053 to 11058, inclusive, of the Health and Safety Code, or alcohol.
(9) In the 10 years prior to the licensing authority receiving the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, has experienced the loss or theft of multiple firearms due to the applicant?s lack of compliance with federal, state, or local law regarding storing, transporting, or securing the firearm. For purposes of this paragraph, "multiple firearms" includes a loss of more than one firearm on the same occasion, or the loss of a single firearm on more than one occasion.
(10) Failed to report a loss of a firearm as required by Section 25250 or any other state, federal, or local law requiring the reporting of the loss of a firearm.
(b) In determining whether an applicant is a disqualified person and cannot receive or renew a license in accordance with subdivision (a) of this section, the licensing authority shall conduct an investigation that meets all of the following minimum requirements:
(1) An in-person interview with the applicant. For renewal applications, the licensing authority may elect to forgo this requirement.
(2) In-person, virtual, or telephonic interviews with at least three character references, at least one of whom must be a person described in subdivision (b) of Section 273.5, if applicable, and at least one of whom must be the applicant?s cohabitant, if applicable. For renewal applications, the licensing authority may elect to forgo this requirement.
(3) A review of publicly available information about the applicant, including publicly available statements published or posted by the applicant.
(4) A review of all information provided in the application for a license.
(5) A review of all information provided by the Department of Justice in accordance with subdivision (a) of, paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of, and paragraph (3) of subdivision (c) of Section 26185, as well as firearms eligibility notices or any other information subsequently provided to the licensing authority regarding the applicant.
(6) A review of the information in the California Restraining and Protective Order System accessible through the California Law Enforcement Telecommunications System.
(c) In determining whether an applicant is a disqualified person and cannot receive or renew a license in accordance with subdivision (a), nothing in this section precludes the licensing authority from engaging in investigative efforts in addition to those listed in subdivision (b).
(d) Within 90 days of receiving the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant of the licensing authority?s initial determination, based on its investigation thus far, of whether an applicant is a disqualified person pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 as follows:
(1) If the licensing authority makes an initial determination that, based on its investigation thus far, the applicant is not a disqualified person, the notice shall inform the applicant to proceed with the training requirements specified in Section 26165. The licensing authority shall then submit the applicant?s fingerprints or the renewal notification to the Department of Justice in accordance with Section 26185.
(2) If, within 90 days of receiving the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, the licensing authority determines that the applicant is a disqualified person, the notice shall inform the applicant that the request for a license has been denied, state the reason as to why the determination was made, and inform the applicant that they may request a hearing from a court, as outlined in Section 26206. A licensing authority providing notice under this paragraph informing the applicant that the request for a license has been denied satisfies the requirement to provide notice of a denial of a license pursuant to Section 26205.
(e) The prohibitions listed in subdivision (a) shall apply whether or not the relevant conduct, order, conviction, charge, commitment, or other relevant action took place or was issued or entered before the effective date of the act that added this subdivision.

[TnTzDad]

CA laws pertaining to CA CCW issuance were changed, effective 01-01-2024.

The issuing agency is asking for more information in order to determine if you are a disqualified person per the new CA laws.......

Thank you. Most of that is over my head, but I know 99.9% of it has no bearing on me. I'll give them what they need to know and let it ride.

[Snoopy47]

I received an Other Than Honorable discharge from the service. The form simply states "Misconduct". In no way am I proud of my discharge type or the circumstances behind it. It was 21 years ago and a lot has changed since then???. is there any reason I should have to disclose the exact nature of my discharge beyond what is on the official form?

Answer the questions that are asked and don?t go down a path investigators don?t start.

For those not in the know Other that Honorable is still NOT Dishonorable.

I categorize it as you got fired, and isn?t related to any kind of crime or conviction. Dishonorable screams criminal conviction.

Still however, when you bring it up it begs the question to those in the know. It?s usually administratively easier to let you clock out your time send you on your way with an honorable and term of service completed but give you a banned from reenlistment code on your DD214. So you didn?t get convicted but convinced a flag officer to kick you out.

Funny?? investigators should be looking at reenlistments codes as much as anything else.

But these backgrounds are not for a job. So don?t get too worked up about if

[Usual_Suspect]

You can submit a request to Cal DOJ, but they don't perform a "Firearms" background as part of it, just a record of any arrests in California.

https://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints/record-review

[12GAUGE]

You can submit a request to Cal DOJ, but they don't perform a "Firearms" background as part of it, just a record of any arrests in California.
https://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints/record-review

Perfect, thanks!

[Dvrjon]

I am thinking of applying for my CCW in Glendora. I am 56 and defiantly can not remember every interaction or dates with Leo's. Is there a site or resource you would use to get a RAP sheet on your history? Don't want to be denied because of a ticket 10 years ago
They already have all the information they need on you at their disposal seems redundant to have to list it as well.

There is nothing in the Application that requires anyone to remember every interaction or dates with LEOS. It is your life; you lived it; you should know when you were hooked up by LEOs (I do). The Application, Page 6, requires traffic information for the past 5 years only. That has been the requirement for decades.