Topic for New Research

[WithinReason]

It occured to me that there is fertile ground in the area of firearm research related to CCW use post-Bruen. In particular, I would love to see someone research the number of gun crimes committed by CCW holders in the last 12 months compared to gun crimes committed by non-CCW holders.

We all know what the results will show. CCW holders are not the problem. Criminals violating firearms laws are the problem.

Accurate research can help support 2A litigation. Heck, I may conduct the research and write the paper myself.

[benjamin101677]

First place to start would be Fresno sheriff; they already published about the number of gun related crimes that there ccw holders have committed. There was only 1 gun related crime with ccw holders in the last few years and that taking a gun into a court house.

[Dan_Eastvale]

UC Davis et al does all the research THEY think is relevant.

One could politely "ask" them to conduct this particular research topic....hahaha

[WithinReason]

First place to start would be Fresno sheriff; they already published about the number of gun related crimes that there ccw holders have committed. There was only 1 gun related crime with ccw holders in the last few years and that taking a gun into a court house.

Thanks for the tip.

[nick]

It occured to me that there is fertile ground in the area of firearm research related to CCW use post-Bruen. In particular, I would love to see someone research the number of gun crimes committed by CCW holders in the last 12 months compared to gun crimes committed by non-CCW holders.

We all know what the results will show. CCW holders are not the problem. Criminals violating firearms laws are the problem.

Accurate research can help support 2A litigation. Heck, I may conduct the research and write the paper myself.

This has been done for many years. For instance, the surveys of FL, TX, PA CCW revocations (short version - crime committed by CCW holders is next to nothing. About 6 times lower than those committed by LE). Antis don't care. They aren't in it to fight crime (they usually fight to increase crime), they're in it to ban guns for regular people.

[Rickybillegas]

Yes, there's plenty of research pre-Bruen, but I think this is a relevant discussion with the new crop of BRUEN baby's (I'm one) issued since 8/22/22.

For example, as of 2022, the % of adult permit holders was bout 8% in the U.S. I expect that to double in the next year or so. Bigger data base.

I'm guessing the results won't change much.

[Snoopy47]

In particular, I would love to see someone research the number of gun crimes committed by CCW holders in the last 12 months compared to gun crimes committed by non-CCW holders.

This will come soon enough.

I think we as a community are full of ourselves in regard to 2A issues and responsible firearm ownership. I am never more afraid of firearms than I am on a police or military qualification range.

Don't get too excited. I expect CCW holders to make headlines with accidents.

Or not........... Maybe with all the CA training and equipment restrictions CA ends up being the poster child for CCW training. I'm pretty sure by this point some CA CCW holders are going to be more formally firearms trained than some back hill LEO in Red States.

[Librarian]

Yes, there's plenty of research pre-Bruen, but I think this is a relevant discussion with the new crop of BRUEN baby's (I'm one) issued since 8/22/22.

For example, as of 2022, the % of adult permit holders was bout 8% in the U.S. I expect that to double in the next year or so. Bigger data base.

I'm guessing the results won't change much.

With 27 states not requiring CCW docs, the pool of CCW holders is actually dropping.

Since there are no stats collected where docs are not required, hard to tell whether number if concealed carriers is changing.

[WithinReason]

My thinking was to study California crime involving firearms post-Bruen, and see how many crimes are committed by CCW holders compared to non-CCW holders. I predict that the research will show that the increase in CCW holders has not substantially increased the percentage of crimes.

[nick]

My thinking was to study California crime involving firearms post-Bruen, and see how many crimes are committed by CCW holders compared to non-CCW holders. I predict that the research will show that the increase in CCW holders has not substantially increased the percentage of crimes.

That's pretty much a given, since it's been predicted every time a state relaxed the CCW laws and never materialized.

[TrailerparkTrash]

It occured to me that there is fertile ground in the area of firearm research related to CCW use post-Bruen. In particular, I would love to see someone research the number of gun crimes committed by CCW holders in the last 12 months compared to gun crimes committed by non-CCW holders.

We all know what the results will show. CCW holders are not the problem. Criminals violating firearms laws are the problem.

Accurate research can help support 2A litigation. Heck, I may conduct the research and write the paper myself.

I?d like to kick start this research project myself, but I?m too busy trout fishing and hunting. You know, boring stuff.

[WithinReason]

I am going to commit to this project as my New Year's Resolution, along with more trout fishing and hunting.

[Gymtech]

I believe years ago that there was a report that more officers got arrested than ccw carriers

[WithinReason]

I am particularly interested in researching the period of time post-Bruen in California. I have taken an initial step and will dig in more earnestly after this week.

Merry Christmas!