Applying for CCW with a Modified Gun

[rwcole88]

Unfortunately it seems that way. Your CZ is a 9mm and was erroneously DROSed as a .40?

Yes. But it was easily fixed by the shop o bought it at.

[Quiet]

The original CA FFL dealer can submit a DROS correction to fix any errors that were discovered after the firearm was released.

Otherwise, the firearm needs to be re-DROS'd with the correct info (caliber, barrel length, etc).
^Most common method is to pawn the firearm, then pick it up before the pawn store can legally sell it. When the firearm is returned to you, the pawn store must submit a DROS (which should update the firearm's AFS file to its current info).


Under current CA laws/regulations...

Handguns approved for carry must be listed by make, model, caliber, and serial number on the carry permit. [PC 26175(i)]

If a handgun does not match what is listed on the carry permit (example... caliber not matching), then the permit is invalid and the person carrying that handgun will be treated as if they are illegally conceal carrying a handgun.

[1911su16b870]

yes but a converted lc380 to a ruger slide conversion and magazine Ruger part #90499 is just that.....the conversion makes it exactly an LC9

[Gun1]

The original CA FFL dealer can submit a DROS correction to fix any errors that were discovered after the firearm was released.

Otherwise, the firearm needs to be re-DROS'd with the correct info (caliber, barrel length, etc).
^Most common method is to pawn the firearm, then pick it up before the pawn store can legally sell it. When the firearm is returned to you, the pawn store must submit a DROS (which should update the firearm's AFS file to its current info).


Under current CA laws/regulations...

Handguns approved for carry must be listed by make, model, caliber, and serial number on the carry permit. [PC 26175(i)]

If a handgun does not match what is listed on the carry permit (example... caliber not matching), then the permit is invalid and the person carrying that handgun will be treated as if they are illegally conceal carrying a handgun.

Ah, interesting. So pawn the Ruger LC380 with the 9mm conversion and when I pick it up it'll be DROSed as a 9mm?

[neuron]

Despite some of the comments posted in this thread, modifying the gun on your LTC so as to change its caliber (e.g. .380 to 9mm) will at the very least require your IA to issue you a new permit that specifies the caliber of the gun you are authorized to carry. That might involve listing the two different calibers if the gun (as most) is serialized on the frame and two different interchangeable slides/barrels are to be carried.

That's because California CCW Licenses must list not only the serial number but the caliber of the weapons authorized for CCW.

Furthermore, even if your IA allows dual caliber listing for a given pistol, they will most likely require you to qualify at the range with both calibers.

[s3Rc51]

As others have said, many agencies will require it to be listed in CCW in the caliber it will be carried in.

Regarding modifications, that's going to be a "what are you comfortable with" type scenario. My primaries are wholly unmodified, aside from sights and superficial things. However, one of them is a 10mm Glock 20 that is heavily modified. I bought it specifically for carry when camping/out in the woods. Had a bunch of work done by Cold Bore to make what I wanted: stippled, reprofiled but the biggest/most noticeable is I had the grip chopped to a 29 length; easier to carry with flush 29 mags with a pinky extension floor plate, while still retaining full weight/length in the slide, and full size mag(s) with grip sleeves for back up (mag CAPACITY is a different topic aside from length...I know my IA forbids carrying any mag larger than 10 rounds, regardless of if you legally own it. Yours likely will have the same policy). I have never had them bat an eye during range qual, even at the sherriff's dept range.

Again, not giving you legal advice, just stating my experience for whatever it's worth. YMMV.

[educator]

do they inspect your arms to make sure it's the unmodified version? what if it's something small like a cli mod that you honestly forgot? are they really going to be that petty over such insignificant modifications? a lawyer can argue anything, but what is the real world consequences of doing something like modifying the cli or the mag disconnect?

[ACfixer]

do they inspect your arms to make sure it's the unmodified version? what if it's something small like a cli mod that you honestly forgot? are they really going to be that petty over such insignificant modifications? a lawyer can argue anything, but what is the real world consequences of doing something like modifying the cli or the mag disconnect?

Ask ten people, you'll get ten different answers.

[mk2dave]

What IA? Different places have different rules. And if stuff goes south, a lawyer will argue against you if you didn't follow IA rules. If they don't catch it before the license is issued, you can bet they'll catch it if you need to use it. It's all a risk. Proceed with intent.

My IA has the class instructor "inspect" and confirm serial numbers. 5 seconds for the serial and 2 seconds seeing it has a grippy looking thing and a round tube looking thingy.

[OaklandGunner]

It’s all about the county and alameda allows the ccw holder to make any legal modifications