What can I carry?

[LGF]

Apologies for asking an obvious question but I have been unable to find the answer online:

If granted a CA CCW, is one restricted to carrying one of the models on the current state approved list or can one carry an older pistol? Neither my Commander nor my Sig Sauer P225 are currently permitted for sale here but are they legal for carry?

Thanks.

[Bbonez]

Depending on your IA, most will require the firearm to be registered in your name. So if it's older and you acquired it before registration was a thing you'll probably need to register it before you can add it to your CCW. Where do you live?

[Librarian]

A few agencies are reputed to require that carry guns be on the Roster; that is not a matter of state law but of Iron Whim of such agencies.

See also the sticky FAQ thread, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=388997

[GlockN'Roll]

Apologies for asking an obvious question but I have been unable to find the answer online:

If granted a CA CCW, is one restricted to carrying one of the models on the current state approved list or can one carry an older pistol?

Neither my Commander nor my Sig Sauer P225 are currently permitted for sale here but are they legal for carry?

Thanks.

Update your location (your county is sufficient) and we can given you better information based on your local (county) issuing authority's policies...

[LGF]

Thanks for the quick responses. I am in San Mateo County.

[L-2]

For the OP and Post 5,

https://sanmateoca.permitium.com/ccw/start

A pertinent quote from the county website merely says,

"Be sure that each firearm you are listing on your Concealed Carry Weapon license is registered in your name only. The firearm cannot be registered to any other person. The firearm also cannot be registered as a “single shot"."

From this particular quote, there is no mention of on- or off- roster status. Whether an applicant needs to even own a firearm at time of application is unknown-by-me. Applications often have some degree of requirement to state which firearm(s) are planned to be used for the permit/ccw, but it also seems the specific firearm(s) can be later decided upon and specified at the qualification stage.

Practicality, of which and how many firearms are allowed (many locales seem to limit it to THREE), is up to the IA and the applicant. If it was me, I'd plan on owning three handguns, whether different or identical, just to have spares should one need replacing, due to service/parts/loss/breakage.

I understand CA's ccw permit is only valid for 2 years, but I'd also recommend much shooting and practice, which might increase the chances of wear and breakage vs. that of a "casual" owner/shooter. Of course, even after 2 years, plan to renew the ccw for an indefinite number of times depending on one's life plans.

I've also heard of the on-roster-requirement possibility mentioned in Post 3, but don't know which of the 58 counties in CA are requiring that. Maybe someone can post a list of counties someday, but those details can likely change in a moment with no notice to the public, I imagine.

If it was up to me, the OP's P225 and "Commander" (1911) would be fine handguns with which to carry and have on one's CCW permit. (But it's not up to me.)

[Quiet]

The firearm also cannot be registered as a “single shot".

Addressing this part...

If a handgun was transferred via SSE or SSE2, then it will be registered in AFS as a "pistol, single-shot" and registered in the caliber it was made as a single-shot (during the SSE days, it was typical to utilize a .25ACP 6" barrel to meet the SSE requirements).

Even if that handgun was modified after it was transferred into another configuration or caliber, it will still show up in AFS as a single-shot pistol chambered in the SSE caliber.

This means any handgun you obtain via SSE or SSE2 will be disqualified from being approved for carry.

SSE pistols could have their AFS records corrected to its current configuration via CA DROS submission.
^Such as a (PPT) transfer DROS or a pawn return DROS.

Per CA DOJ, SSE2 pistols are prohibited from being modified into a non-SSE2 configuration and doing so is considered making an illegal unsafe handgun.
^CA LEO runs pistol and it shows up as "pistol, single-shot" and it is not configured as such, then reasonable suspicion for manufacturing an illegal unsafe handgun and if evidence is discovered that the person possessing it had configured it out of SSE2, then probable cause for arrest for manufacturing an illegal unsafe handgun.

[SilveradoColt21]

You can carry whatever you'd like .

[SandHill]

SSE pistols could have their AFS records corrected to its current configuration via CA DROS submission.
^Such as a (PPT) transfer DROS or a pawn return DROS.

Quiet, thanks for posting this. I have bought a number of off roster handguns via PPT, and have always wondered if I could get them onto a CCW if they had origianlly been Drossed in CA as SSE.

THis raises the question: how would you know if a handgun you are buying via PPT was once the subject of SSE2?

[G-forceJunkie]

If you bought it PPT as a semi auto, it is registered as a semi auto. How it was registered in the past doesn't matter.

[Gymtech]

I have a clock 42 that is off roster that I carry...
My advice is to confirm with who ever you are going to use for qualifying...

[BAJ475]

...
This raises the question: how would you know if a handgun you are buying via PPT was once the subject of SSE2?

First, what difference would it make? PPTs are exempt from the roster and once DROSed it would be listed as a semi auto. Second, as far as I know, there is no statute that says that converting a SSE2 handgun into a semi auto is unlawful, nor to my knowledge has the issue ever been tried in a court. If some DA were to charge a person with unlawfully manufacturing an unsafe handgun by converting a SSE2 handgun into a semi auto, not only would it raise the question of whether or not such activity was gunsmithing or manufacturing it would open the roster to a 2A constitutional challenge for sure.

[Mute]

Quiet, thanks for posting this. I have bought a number of off roster handguns via PPT, and have always wondered if I could get them onto a CCW if they had origianlly been Drossed in CA as SSE.

THis raises the question: how would you know if a handgun you are buying via PPT was once the subject of SSE2?

Doesn't matter. The gun will be in the database as whatever it was during the DROS for your PPT transaction.

[SharedShots]

For More Information, Contact:
San Mateo County Sheriff's Office

Address:
400 County Center
Redwood City
CA 94063

Telephone: Phone: (650) 599-1662 or (650) 573-2340
Fax: (650) 599-1327


No doubt someone will answer the phone.