P365XL worth it over on roster guns

[Fabian805]

[P5Ret]

The first thing you'll need to consider is, what upgrades or modifications will your IA allow to a stock gun.

After you get that information only you will be able to determine if it is worth it or not.

[Fabian805]

The first thing you'll need to consider is, what upgrades or modifications will your IA allow to a stock gun.

After you get that information only you will be able to determine if it is worth it or not.

[Irvine]

To me, the most important question is what do I shoot best with.
Then if the gun I shoot best with is smaller, easier to carry than a larger one, then that's what I carry.
The 365 checked all the boxes: I'm more accurate with it, it has the 10+1 capacity, and super easy to conceal. I got the XL slide and added the Holosun 507, feel very comfortable all round.
Of course it's way more expensive than the on-roster guns, I'm very lucky I was able to pick one up at a "decent".
As P5ret mentioned, also your IA may restrict what you can do. OCSD allows modifications: https://www.ocsheriff.gov/commands-d...ds/ccw-license

[Quiet]

The first thing you'll need to consider is, what upgrades or modifications will your IA allow to a stock gun.

After you get that information only you will be able to determine if it is worth it or not.

I’m not looking to do anything crazy trigger work if necessary, optic, grip mods if necessary I wasn’t even aware they can limit that

Under current CA laws, the issuing agency authorizes what handguns are listed on the permits they issue and the authorized handguns must be listed by Make, Caliber, & Serial Number. [PC 26175(i)]

Each issuing agency is allowed to determine their own approval process for determining what they will authorize.

Some issuing agencies will only allow modifications that they allow their LEOs, some issuing agencies do not allow any modifications, and some issuing agencies allow almost all modifications as long as they are configured to be CA legal and match their AFS records.

AFS lists a firearm by type, action, make, model, caliber, barrel length, and serial number.
^There is current CA legislation that will require handguns to be registered to the permit applicant and to exactly match their AFS record, in order to be eligible for listing on a CA CCW permit.

In the end it comes down to what your issuing agency allows.
^Name your issuing agency, for more specific answers to your line of questions.

[Fabian805]

Under current CA laws, the issuing agency authorizes what handguns are listed on the permits they issue and the authorized handguns must be listed by Make, Caliber, & Serial Number. [PC 26175(i)]

Each issuing agency is allowed to determine their own approval process for determining what they will authorize.

Some issuing agencies will only allow modifications that they allow their LEOs, some issuing agencies do not allow any modifications, and some issuing agencies allow almost all modifications as long as they are configured to be CA legal and match their AFS records.

AFS lists a firearm by type, action, make, model, caliber, barrel length, and serial number.
^There is current CA legislation that will require handguns to be registered to the permit applicant and to exactly match their AFS record, in order to be eligible for listing on a CA CCW permit.

In the end it comes down to what your issuing agency allows.
^Name your issuing agency, for more specific answers to your line of questions.

[Djantlive]

I like p320 because the fcu is more versatile with various optic ready slides 3.6-5” barrels. With an optic like r1pro, I shoot so much better than my p226.

365xl uses proprietary rails and smaller optic cut which limits accessory compatibility

[vipertom1970]

I carry p365 and p365X, you don't need any work done to it. Add an optic, 365, 365x or 365XL all shoot about the same.

[Fabian805]

[Fabian805]

I carry p365 and p365X, you don't need any work done to it. Add an optic, 365, 365x or 365XL all shoot about the same.

[micro911]

I had a 365XL. I ended up selling it. I did not like how it felt in my hand. I still carry a Glock 17, and alternate it sometimes with a M&P M2.0 Compact.

If you can get the 365 at a good price, I think it is worth it if you feel comfortable with it. I don't see much advantage over other models.

[L84CABO]

Should I look at something bigger

Just my rambling thoughts on this subject...

There was a time where if you needed a gun it was likely for a more "personal" type situation like a mugging or you walked in on a convenience store robbery. But now they're flying jet liners into buildings and blowing up marathons, and killing white men on the streets of Fresno because they're white and because religion of peace, and they're shooting up work Christmas parties, and schools, and malls, and theaters, and nightclubs, and driving vans through crowds of people, etc. Not to mention that you may end up dealing with multiple shooters, shooters with rifles, and/or shooters with rifles where you need to take a 43 yard shot to solve the problem.

In most recent years, many people have started carrying the reduced capacity, shorter sight radius'd, greater recoiling, can't get your whole hand on the grip, ultra thin, sub compact guns like the Shield. And they sure are great to carry. The question, however, is, "do you want to bet your life and the life of your family" on this type/size of platform?

And maybe you do. You've thought it all through, you shoot these smaller guns well, and you're willing to accept the trade offs for the increased "concealability"/comfort that these guns afford. However, many people's examination of this question began and ended with, "they're sure nice to carry." They never thought it all through.

Now we are starting to see those smaller guns increase in size a bit. Greater capacity and a grip you can get your whole hand on, are making a comeback.
They're starting to get closer to Glock 19 size again, but still a bit smaller and slimmer.

Again, the question to ask is, "do you feel comfortable betting your life and the lives of your family on the P365XL? Is this the gun that you would actually want to fight with?

This is a very personal decision and only you can answer it for yourself. For me personally, I never made the switch to the Shield sized guns. I carry a 4.25" M&P Core w/an RMR 06...and Apex trigger (it's essentially Glock 19 sized...not counting the RMR obviously). I'm 6' 4", 200 lbs, w/decent sized hands and I never liked the small grips of the Shields...or the reduced capacity. And once you added the extended magazine so you could get your whole meat-hook on the gun, the grip became about the same size as a Glock 19 anyway, albeit a little slimmer. I also never had any problems concealing the M&P and the size and weight of it never bothered me.

My advice is to carry the biggest gun you can reasonably/comfortably conceal...that will ensure you carry it each and every time you go out. If the size/weight of the gun causes you to leave it behind because it just isn't comfortable, doesn't fit with your summer wardrobe, etc., then you've probably gone too big.

[Fabian805]

I had a 365XL. I ended up selling it. I did not like how it felt in my hand. I still carry a Glock 17, and alternate it sometimes with a M&P M2.0 Compact.

If you can get the 365 at a good price, I think it is worth it if you feel comfortable with it. I don't see much advantage over other models.

[Fabian805]

P365XL worth it over on roster guns

Just my rambling thoughts on this subject...

There was a time where if you needed a gun it was likely for a more "personal" type situation like a mugging or you walked in on a convenience store robbery. But now they're flying jet liners into buildings and blowing up marathons, and killing white men on the streets of Fresno because they're white and because religion of peace, and they're shooting up work Christmas parties, and schools, and malls, and theaters, and nightclubs, and driving vans through crowds of people, etc. Not to mention that you may end up dealing with multiple shooters, shooters with rifles, and/or shooters with rifles where you need to take a 43 yard shot to solve the problem.

In most recent years, many people have started carrying the reduced capacity, shorter sight radius'd, greater recoiling, can't get your whole hand on the grip, ultra thin, sub compact guns like the Shield. And they sure are great to carry. The question, however, is, "do you want to bet your life and the life of your family" on this type/size of platform?

And maybe you do. You've thought it all through, you shoot these smaller guns well, and you're willing to accept the trade offs for the increased "concealability"/comfort that these guns afford. However, many people's examination of this question began and ended with, "they're sure nice to carry." They never thought it all through.

Now we are starting to see those smaller guns increase in size a bit. Greater capacity and a grip you can get your whole hand on, are making a comeback.
They're starting to get closer to Glock 19 size again, but still a bit smaller and slimmer.

Again, the question to ask is, "do you feel comfortable betting your life and the lives of your family on the P365XL? Is this the gun that you would actually want to fight with?

This is a very personal decision and only you can answer it for yourself. For me personally, I never made the switch to the Shield sized guns. I carry a 4.25" M&P Core w/an RMR 06...and Apex trigger (it's essentially Glock 19 sized...not counting the RMR obviously). I'm 6' 4", 200 lbs, w/decent sized hands and I never liked the small grips of the Shields...or the reduced capacity. And once you added the extended magazine so you could get your whole meat-hook on the gun, the grip became about the same size as a Glock 19 anyway, albeit a little slimmer. I also never had any problems concealing the M&P and the size and weight of it never bothered me.

My advice is to carry the biggest gun you can reasonably/comfortably conceal...that will ensure you carry it each and every time you go out. If the size/weight of the gun causes you to leave it behind because it just isn't comfortable, doesn't fit with your summer wardrobe, etc., then you've probably gone too big.

[Brother_Hesekiel]

I'm shooting a Sig P320 X5 Legion in competition, which weighs over 3 lbs. with a fully loaded mag. I also shoot a 1911 which is only slightly lighter. If I ever have to leave my home for the hills and can only take one gun with me, I'll take my H&K USP 45.

But for daily carry, I have determined that lighter is better, because I can carry a gun all day long without even noticing it. So I went from a Shield 9 to a Snubby and from that to a Sig P238 and a Sig P365. Can't beat less than an inch in thickness and 16 ounces of weight when you're out and about, me thinks, but I realize that we are not all alike.

Another thing to consider is SB918, which will become law in a few days, effectively prohibiting CCW about anywhere in the State of California. I don't know how many times a day you'll be prepared to disarm and arm again, but if you are continuing to carry, a very small, super-duper concealable gun seems to be the ticket to happiness here.