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  • KA1978
    Member
    • Mar 2020
    • 165

    EDC with red dot

    is anyone using a red dot on thier EDC ?
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    ezaircon4jc
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 604

    Originally posted by KA1978
    is anyone using a red dot on thier EDC ?
    My brother-in-law does. But he's in Nevada...

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    • #3
      26.2madness
      Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 229

      Yes, I use a Holosun 508 on my Glock 26. Really like it and it works well, especially since my near vision is not as good as it used to be.

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44680

        Yes - Trijicon RMR on G19 MOS.
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          L84CABO
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2009
          • 8759

          4.25" M&P Core w/RMR 06, with an Apex flat faced trigger w/forward set sear...in red...because I'm spicy like that...in a JM Custom AIWB-WC holster,
          "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

          Fighter Pilot

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          • #6
            jonc
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 6403

            Any one know if LA county allows it ?

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            • #7
              Mute
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 8580

              Originally posted by jonc
              Any one know if LA county allows it ?
              There is no restriction against it in L.A. County. FYI, I'm using a Holosun 508 on my 9mm 1911.
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              • #8
                Tarrab1
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 15

                407K on P365


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                • #9
                  dbmosley
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 55

                  Originally posted by KA1978
                  is anyone using a red dot on thier EDC ?

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                  • #10
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44680

                    Originally posted by dbmosley
                    I understand the desire to have some fancy “dots” and mods to your EDC, very cute. I carry every day, and all I ever carry is a stock pistol because I don’t want to try to justify anything more than that to a jury. Any prosecutor worth a rats *** will come after you in a huge way for your cute little modifications. You don’t need fancy **** in a defensive situation. Point it, and shoot it.


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                    This concern appears quite regularly.

                    I'm not saying it's impossible, but outside of the Rittenhouse trial last year, do you have any cases you can point out where a prosecutor attempted to make gun configuration an issue at trial? (and, Rittenhouse was not 'configuration' so much as standard nonsense about AR-type as 'weapons of war').

                    Far more important is whether the incident might really be 'self defense' no matter what weapon might be used - as shown by the result of the Rittenhouse trial.

                    As to "fancy “dots” and mods ", perhaps your eyes are still young; mine need some technical support.
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #11
                      vandal
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2866

                      While I would love for you to cite a relevant case, trying to "come after" a defendant for a red dot on their handgun would be a huge backfire for that imaginary prosecutor.

                      It's apparent you don't understand how the red dot makes everyone safer in a defensive encounter. And the number of law enforcement agencies who are deploying red dots for their force only reinforces that.

                      Your "[Just] point it and shoot it" oversimplification of self defense encounters suggests that you haven't put in much work in this area.

                      Originally posted by dbmosley
                      I understand the desire to have some fancy “dots” and mods to your EDC, very cute. I carry every day, and all I ever carry is a stock pistol because I don’t want to try to justify anything more than that to a jury. Any prosecutor worth a rats *** will come after you in a huge way for your cute little modifications. You don’t need fancy **** in a defensive situation. Point it, and shoot it.

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                      • #12
                        mej16489
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2714

                        I've carried with a red dot for so long now, I can't really remember for certain when I started.

                        I'm pretty sure it was early 2013 when the M&P C.O.R.E first came out. I put a Trijicon RM07 on it.

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                        • #13
                          hermosabeach
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19721

                          Lapd

                          Originally posted by jonc
                          Any one know if LA county allows it ?
                          I believe the new unsafe handgun adopted by LAPD has a dot

                          I don't see why any sights would be an issue




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                          Sights fail

                          Train with the battery out on a regular basis
                          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                          • #14
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 44680

                            Originally posted by hermosabeach
                            Train with the battery out on a regular basis
                            Not hardly convenient with the RMR - have to unmount the sight to replace the battery.
                            ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                            • #15
                              L84CABO
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8759

                              What a cute little post.

                              A good shoot is going to be a good shoot. It isn't going to suddenly turn bad because you put a red dot on your pistol. And any defense attorney worth a rats butt can counter any ridiculousness from a prosecutor...if I am unable.

                              Prosecutor: Mr. Cabo, I see you put a "cute little fancy dot" on your weapon of mass destruction. Clearly this is an indication that you are a blood thirsty killer who was just looking for a fight.

                              Me: I see you've been talking to dbmosely. I put a...what was it...oh yea..."cute little fancy dot" on my pistol to improve accuracy, to ensure that I hit my target and NOT send rounds down range where they might harm an innocent person. This was the same weapon I qualified with with the San Diego County Sheriff's department and at no time did they indicate that this was problematic. BTW...the SD Sheriff's department allows their officers to use red dots as does the San Diego Police Department. My pistol and optic is no different than what local law enforcement agencies use for their officers.


                              My first priority is to survive the damn gunfight so that I will be alive to face whatever nonsense comes next. Accordingly, I will make any REASONABLE and LEGAL modification that helps ensure/increase my chances of survival. And if an idiot prosecutor wants to try and come after me for my red dot, so be it.
                              "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

                              Fighter Pilot

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