My CCW interview experience - Ventura County (Denied November 2019)

[Ventura_guy]

[Skip_Dog]

Well that sucks and I am sorry. Believe it or not all of Ca is not like this. There is a county ccw map here some where that you should take a look at. (I am on my phone and can't link it). Thanks for the right up and you should file an appeal.

[LoadedM333]

Wow, sorry to hear that. Have you appealed?


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[SkyHawk]

I would usually tell you to appeal as well. But being in your mid 20s, it may be a slim chance.

Some IAs are much more critical of young people and reluctant to issue to them. You mentioned that you asked other people about their interviews with this IA, were they also mid 20's or younger?

Also, it sounds like a lot of what was asked (middle school/high school), the questions about FLA and ammo, and the games that were played (like with the pen) were about seeing how you would handle it.

And this rough childhood you mention and painful experiences you shared with this interviewer, why go there if there is not some type of documented LE contact on file for you? How elaborate was the good cause you mentioned - was it short and sweet or a mini-novel?

Anyhow, keep your head up and try again when you turn 30. And get a good phone between now and then.

[Jeepergeo]

Too much flakey high school detail in your story such as what you wore that day, you were tired, the "female" at the desk, your crummy cell phone plan, no "major" issues at work (no mention of the "minor" issues) etc. Sounds like maybe the entire interview was a "figment" of your own "imagination".

This all sounds fake to me. Post your denial letter to prove you are real.

[Ventura_guy]

I most likely should have filed the appeal when i had the chance. In all honesty i have no idea how the appeal process is or how long i would have to appeal. For some reason 10 days comes into my head. I was called 9 days After the official denial date on my letter. It's a done deal now tho. I have already financially planned my exit out of this state. All of this is just uncalled for.

[Ventura_guy]

Too much flakey high school detail in your story such as what you wore that day, you were tired, the "female" at the desk, your crummy cell phone plan, no "major" issues at work (no mention of the "minor" issues) etc. Sounds like maybe the entire interview was a "figment" of your own "imagination".

This all sounds fake to me. Post your denial letter to prove you are real.

Hey you sound like my interviewer who may or may not have been named already I am certainly not on here to prove anything. I'm on here for a simple discussion and to share my frankly uncomfortable experience with the world. As for my "flakey high school detail" I'm sorry you see it that way. To be completely honest i'm a cheapskate! I love cheap things and love my old beat up car and my 50$ a month phone plan! Cause it saves me money. Although i could afford nice things, i'm a simple man deep inside. As for no major issues at work. I work security. Any security guard who has an interest in doing their job correctly, will eventually end up calling law enforcement to report an issue. I will in no way say where i have worked or where i currently work now but i have called the police on may occasions and filed many reports.

[Ventura_guy]

I would usually tell you to appeal as well. But being in your mid 20s, it may be a slim chance.

Some IAs are much more critical of young people and reluctant to issue to them. You mentioned that you asked other people about their interviews with this IA, were they also mid 20's or younger?

Also, it sounds like a lot of what was asked (middle school/high school), the questions about FLA and ammo, and the games that were played (like with the pen) were about seeing how you would handle it.

And this rough childhood you mention and painful experiences you shared with this interviewer, why go there if there is not some type of documented LE contact on file for you? How elaborate was the good cause you mentioned - was it short and sweet or a mini-novel?

Anyhow, keep your head up and try again when you turn 30. And get a good phone between now and then.

Sir, i respect your viewpoint and i knew from the getgo that may be looked at and perceived like just a typical 20 some odd year old guy. I knew this going in. I wholeheartedly disagree with how the whole CCW process and decision-making process is in this state. It is downright corrupted. I have a fair bit to add to this topic but first I will answer your questions. All of the folks i know who have their CCW are either elderly or are ex-military. (that shouldn't matter, but i'm seeing that it does) As for me mentioning the rough childhood, i should have elaborated in my original post about that. Technically while i was a minor, my address changed a lot, 4 or 5 different high schools, etc etc. (mother could not pay rent and was evicted at least twice from a few places all while i was a minor) I only answered questions i was asked, nothing more, nothing less. As for my good cause, honestly it was a bit lengthy but it wasn't baloney.

As for trying again when i am 30?! You should be a comedian because i will not wait for my right to defend myself. Sir, what part of Shall not be infringed do you not understand? California has banned open carry and seldom grant CCWs. We are being denied the right to bear our arms outside of the home, and this does not bother you? This is the problem. That mindset.

[Ventura_guy]

All denials read because of "moral character" in Ventura county. I was denied my renewal after already having my vc ccw for 4 years with not so much as a parking ticket in that time. If you dealt with det. Ed Jones hope u had fun. He's a smug ******* regardless of how polite and cordial you try to be with him. Upon receiving my denial I was straight pissed because I've never been in trouble a day in my life, haven't had a moving violation in 20+ years, and already had my Ventura ccw along with a Kern ccw and Utah as well. I called for an explanation because I was pissed at the reasoning for my denial. I was told all denials read the same way. Sorry about your situation. I'm guessing if you're a criminal caught carrying they'll just give a no bail release at this point, but God forbid you obey the law your entire life only to be treated like youre on parole.

Like i said, i do not want to mention names but i am very very well aware of who and what you are talking about. After reading and re-reading your post and giving it some thought, i feel bad for you. I feel bad for California and i feel bad for the people who are OK with this tyranny.This whole experience has only made me double my contributions to gun-rights groups in hopes of getting things turned around.

It seems people who get through the process in california and get their CCW are then all of a sudden totally OK with the process and are quite about it. This (meaning the process to acquire a CCW) is not normal and should not be allowed to become normal. We must be vocal about this to our representatives and with our money. VOTE and CONTRIBUTE to constitution loving politicians and groups.

[psssniper]

If I were you I would read this. It will change your life

[Timthetwin]

Sir, i respect your viewpoint and i knew from the getgo that may be looked at and perceived like just a typical 20 some odd year old guy. I knew this going in. I wholeheartedly disagree with how the whole CCW process and decision-making process is in this state. It is downright corrupted. I have a fair bit to add to this topic but first I will answer your questions. All of the folks i know who have their CCW are either elderly or are ex-military. (that shouldn't matter, but i'm seeing that it does) As for me mentioning the rough childhood, i should have elaborated in my original post about that. Technically while i was a minor, my address changed a lot, 4 or 5 different high schools, etc etc. (mother could not pay rent and was evicted at least twice from a few places all while i was a minor) I only answered questions i was asked, nothing more, nothing less. As for my good cause, honestly it was a bit lengthy but it wasn't baloney.

As for trying again when i am 30?! You should be a comedian because i will not wait for my right to defend myself. Sir, what part of Shall not be infringed do you not understand? California has banned open carry and seldom grant CCWs. We are being denied the right to bear our arms outside of the home, and this does not bother you? This is the problem. That mindset.

I am willing to bet your GC statement played a big factor. Mine was one sentence. Also, why did you provide them with your guard permits? Does the county require them? They may have gotten the impression that you wanted to use your CCW for work.

[SkyHawk]

Sir, what part of Shall not be infringed do you not understand? California has banned open carry and seldom grant CCWs. We are being denied the right to bear our arms outside of the home, and this does not bother you? This is the problem. That mindset.

I was born and raised in Texas, 7th generation Texan. You are preaching the choir. We are outnumbered here, and the best we can do is work within the system that has been put upon us while we fight them in court.

I feel bad for California and i feel bad for the people who are OK with this tyranny.This whole experience has only made me double my contributions to gun-rights groups in hopes of getting things turned around.

It seems people who get through the process in california and get their CCW are then all of a sudden totally OK with the process and are quite about it. This (meaning the process to acquire a CCW) is not normal and should not be allowed to become normal. We must be vocal about this to our representatives and with our money. VOTE and CONTRIBUTE to constitution loving politicians and groups.

No one here is Ok with it, but we aren't going to pretend it isn't reality either. And most of us here contribute regularly to groups who are fighting this and who have made a difference. Unfortunately change comes slowly in this state, and every win is hard fought. I didn't stop making contributions to gun rights groups after getting a CCW.

Here is a quick reminder of where we've been and where we are now. You can thank the people here who have stayed in the fight for making a difference, otherwise moving out of state would have gained you nothing.

[starlight]

If I were you I would read this. It will change your life

- thank you
- I didn't wanna say it...lol
















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[starlight]

- OP..

- did you apply through a PD or SD?

- makes a difference

- apply via the SD, not the PD

- you sound 'a little' unstable/dramatic/long winded

- this may have affected the decision

- age COULD be a factor.. I dunno

- keep trying...










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[L84CABO]

Wall of text. Did not read. Sorry OP. Give us the summary version. Or not.