CCW while working

[RandyRhoads]

This is not about employers specific rules. Everything I searched popped up with that.

A buddy was explaining that you can't CCW while employed because if you have to use it, it can be argued you wouldn't have needed to if your employment was the reason you needed to and you could be sued.

I understand it's "my life and what's it worth" but i'm more curious about the legal ramifications.

Can you not carry while being monetarily compensated for a job? What about volunteering? i.e. would carrying while doing private security be a really stupid idea. Of course it would NEVER be used to enforce law...the same rules apply, life or death threat to bodily harm.

I can't remember this from my class. If that was the case would you be royally screwed in court because you were only there to work and that could have been "asking for it"?

It sounds like it's easier to be safe and just not carry, and i'm fine doing that. Just curious what the law says.

[Old_Bald_Guy]

Your buddy knows nothing. You can be sued no matter what. You can legally carry while working unless you work somewhere where carrying is expressly prohibited by law and there's no exemption for LTCers.

[Old_Bald_Guy]

CCW while working

Since you want to leave out the employment issues of violating employer policies, I will leave that out. Re. my answer pertaining to the law, I'll include a caveat with reference to the private security part--I don't know the laws that govern carrying while working security, and I don't know about any possible exemptions for LTC in those cases.

[RandyRhoads]

Your buddy knows nothing.

I frequently tell him that but get nowhere.

[gwolff]

That's a load of BS, really. And any time you are ever forced to use your weapon you can pretty much count on being sued.

[FresnoRob]

There may be an IA somewhere that says you can't carry at all at work but I haven't seen it. My IA has the following on their web page

If you intend to carry your CCW at your place of employment you will need to furnish an original, signed letter of authorization from your employer stating he acknowledges that you will be carrying a firearm while working, and that you have the company's permission to do so. If you are the owner of the business, you are exempt from this requirement.

My employer supplied such a letter.

[Albs]

A buddy was explaining that you can't CCW while employed because if you have to use it, it can be argued you wouldn't have needed to if your employment was the reason you needed to and you could be sued.

Whut. We live in a world full of lawyers and you can literally be sued for anything. I think your friend watches too much Dr.Phil.

Unless your employer expresses that they won't acknowledge your CCW, you're good to go.

[RandyRhoads]

Well that's good to hear that i'm not forced to leave my personal protection at home.

Only thing my IA has on mine is the standard not valid while in a bar/ under the influence.

A little off topic but how often does somebody get their *** handed to them in civil court after needing to use it? As long as you prove it was self defense with obvious threat of great bodily harm are you MOST LIKELY good in civil court, or is it pretty common to have your life severely ruined even after winning in criminal court?

[Albs]

Well that's good to hear that i'm not forced to leave my personal protection at home.

Only thing my IA has on mine is the standard not valid while in a bar/ under the influence.

A little off topic but how often does somebody get their *** handed to them in civil court after needing to use it? As long as you prove it was self defense with obvious threat of great bodily harm are you MOST LIKELY good in civil court, or is it pretty common to have your life severely ruined even after winning in criminal court?

There will always be civil law suits against you if you use your firearm in self defense. There is no getting out of it, the jury may compensate the other party even if your use of force was justified. Unless you have nothing to lose and no assets, it's important to have an insurance policy on top of lawyers who can fight for you.

CCW Safe + NRA/USCCA Insurance Policy will give you a peace of mind if that just happens.

[RandyRhoads]

Thank you I'll look into it for sure.

[wayno21]

Regarding being armed and doing security, you will need permits issued from the state, BSIS, guard and exposed even for concealed work. Plus employer will need to carry correct insurance.

[teg33]

Regarding being armed and doing security, you will need permits issued from the state, BSIS, guard and exposed even for concealed work. Plus employer will need to carry correct insurance.

This. To work as armed security guard, one need to have valid guard card registration and exposed firearm permit which can be obtained from Bureau of Security and Investigative Sevices. To offer security service, one must have valid Private Patrol Operation license issued by BSIS

[spongeworthy]

There may be an IA somewhere that says you can't carry at all at work but I haven't seen it. My IA has the following on their web page

My employer supplied such a letter.

I saw this during the application process (also FCSO), but I'm curious how this works after the fact that the license was issued. Would one need to provide a letter from the employer to the IA after the card was issued as well?

I may just have to call them and inquire.

[Randy G.]

I never saw or read anything in the course of obtaining mine that said I had to notify my employer if I was CCWing.

[bigdawg86]

My initial application in RivCo they had my employer sign the notification, but since my change of jobs and renewal I have not done such a thing.