Santa Clara

[NorCalBusa]

Hirokawa said he “wants to take politics out of concealed-carry permits,” while Smith defended her practices, saying she has been judicious and doles them out based on an applicant having a “good defined need.”

Santa Clara County sheriff candidates trade barbs, revive racist-text scandal at first general election debate

Five-term incumbent Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith and former Undersheriff John Hirokawa square off at NAACP forum ahead of rare runoff race.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/12/sheriff-candidates-trade-barbs-revive-racist-text-scandal-at-first-general-election-debate/

[Paladin]

GS2AC had a meeting last night, Aug 30th. Anyone go to it?

If so, how was it? Can you give us an overview of what went on?

What are they doing to increase the # of CCWs issued by either the SO or their various cities' PDs?

https://gs2ac.com/blogs/

[Paladin]

I’m willing to help out with whatever I can. I just can’t do any planning or organizing. Let me know if you guys need anything.

Here's something I suggested.

Have you guys even contacted the SO and told them you want Sheriff Smith to liberalize CCW issuance by broadening acceptable GC?

If you have any questions, please email CCW@sheriff.sccgov.org

From:

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx

Have you even contacted Sheriff Smith's campaign to tell them you want her to liberalize CCW issuance by broadening acceptable GC?
Here's her campaign's FB page: https://www.facebook.com/lauriesmithreelection/

It's been a week. Anyone do that yet?

I don't get it: so many posters whining about Smith yet you aren't even willing to send a PM or email to her to ask that she liberalize CCW issuance??? Why do you even post in this thread?

[Paladin]

If you guys want to get an idea of whether Smith will lose or not, search online for the percent of all votes cast for all other candidates and add them to Hirokawa's and see if that percent is greater or less than the percent Smith won in the June primary.

Bolded and bumped for those of you who are willing to do something for yourselves....

Since NO ONE (as usual) from Santa Clara Co, pop. 1.9M, has done what they should do, I, who don't even live in that county...

From: http://apps.mercurynews.com/election-results/

SHERIFF

Precincts: 988 of 988 reported

LAURIE SMITH 135,981 42.99%

JOHN HIROKAWA 102,645 32.45%

JOE LA JEUNESSE 35,306 11.16%

JOSE SALCIDO 27,872 8.81%

MARTIN J. MONICA 14,515 4.59%

Of the 25% that neither Smith nor Hirokawa got in the primary, Hirokawa needs to win 18% -- about 2/3rds.

But that's assuming the proportions stay the same in the general election -- they won't. A bunch of people who didn't bother to vote in the primary (it's summer after all....) will show up to vote in the general. Those folks, IMO, are more likely to default to the incumbent.

We'll know in about 2 months...

[Paladin]

If anyone actually wants to do something to improve CCW issuance in Santa Clara County, PM me.

A week later and only phdo said they'd be willing to help improve SCSO issuance.... 1 person out of a population of 1,900,000

[phdo]

He's QuarterBoreGunner on CGN.

If you read thru that Reddit, he was involved in a take over robbery gunfight at a gun store he worked at. SCSO first denied him, but after the gunfight changed their mind.... He's posted about it before on CGN.

ETA:
From: https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/comment..._area/dyca507/

[Paladin]

I will try my luck when I get back to the west coast. I’m currently in the east coast for Labor Day weekend. I’ve been in Indiana and carrying everyday. Just got out of a movie while carrying. Freedom feels good.

Do you know if that guy is a member here? I’m going to contact him via Reddit and ask about the process and his GC.

He's QuarterBoreGunner on CGN.

If you read thru that Reddit, he was involved in a take over robbery gunfight at a gun store he worked at. SCSO first denied him, but after the gunfight changed their mind.... He's posted about it before on CGN.

ETA:

Mine was not the usual process; for most of the 90's I managed a shop and indoor range. We were also the local NFA weapons dealer for local law enforcement. I and the owner were transporting, real live, no-****, machine guns, SBRs and SBSs in our vehicles. I applied back then and was turned down for "insufficient justification". Then this complete moron tried to do a take over robbery of the store (robbing a gun store? Really? Really.) and we ended up in a... what's the polite word? An "exchange of greetings"? Nope it was a gunfight. Anyway, I ended up shooting him twice, he lived and ended up in prison for the next 48 years (still has about 30 to go) and then the Sheriff's department decided that yeah, maybe me having a permit would be a good thing. So yeah, not the normal process.

From: https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/comment..._area/dyca507/

[phdo]

Santa Clara -- APPLY to Get a Spot in Line

Thanks!

From that 4 month old thread: I do not know if that $500 includes Livescan ($varies), psych eval ($150 max.), training ($varies) or anything else.

[Paladin]

This guy got his CCW in Santa Clara County, not sure if he's on the forums or not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/comment...n_sf_bay_area/

Thanks!

From that 4 month old thread:

... its $200+ just for the renewal on top of the initial $500+ i paid the first time.

I do not know if that $500 includes Livescan ($ varies), psych eval ($150 max.), training ($ varies) or anything else.

[Paladin]

I applied after the Peruta decision. I sent the application certified. I don’t know what to do next. I’m pretty sure my application is buried under a pile of applications somewhere if not in the garbage.

The first decision before it went en banc. I don’t remember sending a check because no fees were required on the application. I emailed the gentleman that’s in charge of CCW applications. His name is Kurtis Stenderup. I was told that they were waiting on Peruta. If and when Peruta was finalized, they would process applications in the order received.

I was under the impression that they weren’t going to issue permits unless Peruta was ruled in our favor. I don’t know how to start the conversation with them when they’re not legally obligated to issue permits.

From 4 years ago...

As I understand it, you can apply for a CCW right now and get processed under the sheriff's current policy (where self-defense is not sufficient Good Cause), or you can turn in an application now and they'll hold off processing it pending finalization of Peruta. The 90 days law only applies to the first option, not to the 2nd where they are doing YOU a favor by taking your app and holding it for you to be process as soon as Peruta is finalized. If you don't like either option, you can wait to turn in your app until Peruta is finalized, and then try to get in line when there's a FLOOD of applicants (just like what happened in Orange and Ventura counties after Peruta was published).

You tried under the method depending upon a Peruta win. Tell them you'd now like to try to apply normally. BE WARNED: It might get expensive. See my next post.

[Paladin]

I remember that I sent in a check with my application. They never cashed it. Do I have to apply in-person and pay so they can process my application and make a decision?

If you have any questions, please email CCW@sheriff.sccgov.org From: https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx

...

[325inthe510]

This guy got his CCW in Santa Clara County, not sure if he's on the forums or not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/8giz3w/just_did_my_ccwltc_renewal_in_sf_bay_area/

[phdo]

I remember that I sent in a check with my application. They never cashed it. Do I have to apply in-person and pay so they can process my application and make a decision?

[marcusrn]

It is not an application unless you give them money. If they don't want you to apply they tell you that you have little or no chance. But then of course they can say they dole out ccw to 90 or 100% who do apply. State law mandates that they take and file your application and make a decision.
You can always be denied and carry your denial paperwork while you carry concealed. I have always thought that a jury of your peers would think that was good enough. But I am a constitutionalist.

[Paladin]

If anyone actually wants to do something to improve CCW issuance in Santa Clara County, PM me.