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  • Hopalong
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    Quoted before you can delete it....

    Since you don't consider your own post worth keeping, I won't consider them worth reading. Life is too short to waste time.

    You're now on my Ignore List.
    Bro, you hurt my feelings. LOL

    Goog grief, Mr. Verbosity wasting time? LOL!!!!!

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    LOL Mr Cut&Paste

    Verbosity must make it so

    I'll stand pat.
    Quoted before you can delete it....

    Since you don't consider your own post worth keeping, I won't consider them worth reading. Life is too short to waste time.

    You're now on my Ignore List.

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  • Hopalong
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    LOL Mr Cut&Paste

    Verbosity must make it so

    I'll stand pat.

    If anyone wants to see what is going on here, and where things are trending, go back to those posts

    And read MY contributions.

    Take them with a grain of salt.

    Or listen to MR. CUT&PASTE
    Last edited by Hopalong; 12-16-2018, 12:46 PM.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    LOL

    Typical keyboard commando

    Mr. Cut&Paste

    Talk about worthless posts, based on ZERO knowledge of SLO county.

    They are Fake News. Based on political nonsense that you read, not reality or facts.

    I'll submit that my EXPERIENCE as a long time RESIDENT of SLO county actually does contribute

    I know many people that have applied, been approved, and been denied.

    Easily agitated? LOL

    I'm not the one having to resort and hide behind an Ignore List.

    I'll take your hate all day, bring it.

    As far what the deal is in SLO county, anyone feel free to message me, I'll fill you in.
    Ha! Hopalong has gone back and deleted all his posts from early in 2018 where we went over all this before! I guess he forgot about them until I reminded him. There's that memory problem again....

    Look who's the "keyboard commando" who's EXPERIENCE based posts are "worthless" because even he trashed them. So much for his "Contribution" to CGNers and this thread. LOL!

    Fortunately, I quoted the relevant parts of his posts when I replied to them, so objective CGNers can see this for themselves. Just go to this link and scroll down.

    Last edited by Paladin; 12-16-2018, 12:50 PM.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    I'll submit that my EXPERIENCE as a long time RESIDENT of SLO county actually does contribute

    I know many people that have applied, been approved, and been denied.

    ...

    As far what the deal is in SLO county, anyone feel free to message me, I'll fill you in.
    Originally posted by Hopalong
    You don't need to have 500 acres, but rural is the key word.
    Originally posted by skyscraper
    The conclusions you have drawn from this thread are not indicative of SLO county as a whole. I applied through local PD, got denied, and then approved through SLO sheriff. And I'm not connected in any way to the Sheriffs office nor do I fly hawks on private property.

    I wouldn't make such blanket statements when you have very little facts to back them up.
    Ha! So much for knowing "what the deal is in SLO"!

    Like I said before: notice how Hopalong ignores SLO CGNers and their posts when they say they've been issued SO CCWs in a city. I provided quotes and links to CGNers who've been issued and who've been denied for CGNers to decide for themselves. I said at the time the prior city PD denial reappeared on the SLO SO website that if it hadn't gone away, we would have kept SLO yellow. (See: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...php?p=21238292) And last, as the map says, it can easily be off by 1 color.

    Yet Hopalong is still picking fights with me.... Rather than wasting more time on him, who's only posts in the past 2 years in this thread have been to fight with me, I've now added him to my Ignore List (and fellow CGNers now understand why).

    Quoting these here before he can delete them.

    Originally posted by Hopalong
    LOL
    Originally posted by Hopalong
    Originally posted by Paladin
    Laughter from "the Peanut Gallery."

    If you don't have anything to contribute ....
    I contributed plenty.

    Lived in Slo County for 45 years.

    First applied for CCW 38 years ago.

    Have had (and currently have) a CCW for 20 years under 2 sheriffs.

    I told you what the deal was around here, with multiple, multiple, examples.

    You, who knows absolutely nothing about this county, summarily rejected everything I said.

    Why do you think no-one wants to speak up here?

    571 permits, according to the Undersheriff, and a population of 285,000

    LOL!
    Last edited by Paladin; 12-16-2018, 1:05 PM.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Strykeback
    You didn't have one while living in OC? They pretty much switched to shall issue 2 years ago after peruta. I know a few in AG with them, go for it. If you are out in the unincorporated area of town its a given. Self defense should be passable in the city itself as well.
    Originally posted by skyscraper
    Your chances are MUCH higher with SLO Sheriff than with AGPD. I live in a city nearby you, and had to be denied by the Chief first, before going to the Sheriff and being granted my CCW. As far as I have heard, AGPD does not issue very many CCW's. You lucked out.
    Originally posted by jtlancer
    1. Second week of Sept. 2017: Completed online application, submitted initial payment of $116.58 and scheduled interview appointment (first available was a month out).

    2. Next day I called Rangemaster in SLO and scheduled my CCW class. ***DO this well in advance because depending on when you call the next class could be a month out, like mine was.

    3. I week later I received an email stating that "we are processing your request for a CCW permit, in order to continue the process we will need a More Detailed Cause Statement".
    ***THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: Many on this thread seem to think that it is OK to give out BAD advice or they are AFRAID of saying too much so they limit their responses. That is both lame and stupid. I am not going to go into that any further. Now, what you NEED to do is to have a very thorough, exhaustive and well written Good Cause Statement. Listing self defense because you live in a bad area will not suffice. I would take as much time as you need to think carefully and list at LEAST 5 reasons why you need a CCW and write a brief paragraph for explaining each reason.
    ***I am not listing my Good Cause Statement here because, well, they apply to me not to you. But if you want ask my OPINION of YOUR statement then just PM me.
    After I did that and resubmitted online - the Sheriffs office had nothing more to say about my Good Cause Statement.

    4. Second week in Oct. 2017: Took and passed the CCW class (a week before my interview with the SLO Sheriffs Dept.)

    5. Third week in Oct. 2017: CCW interview and LiveScan fingerprinting at SLO County Sheriffs Dept on HWY 1. I arrived dressed business casual. The interviewer greeted me and I shook their hand. We talked about the CCW class I took and what I learned, the most important lesson being that I would ONLY use my weapon as a LAST RESORT. If I can run away then I will. We reviewed my Good Cause Statement and discussed each reason.
    Then I was asked what I would do in certain situation like, "What do you do when pulled over by the police while carrying." "Where can you NOT carry.", etc.
    That was the first 30 minutes. The last 15 minutes was spent discussing my holster, carry method, the importance of FULLY concealing your weapon and not printing or accidentally brandishing. That was it. I went home feeling confident because I had prepared BEFORE the interview on a full range of topics.

    6. Second week in Nov. 2017. Received email stating, "Your application for a Concealed Carry Weapon License has been approved. Based on the training and instruction you received as part of the permit process and the personal interview with the investigator who processed your application, I am sure you understand the responsibilities commensurate with your permit."

    7. The VERY NEXT day (LOL) I went to SLO Sheriffs Dept. to make my final payment ($95.00? Sorry I forgot the exact amount because it was cash only) and picked up my CCW!

    ***The CCW issued by the SLO County Sheriffs Dept is a simple paper card (roughly 3.25" X 4.5"). It is not durable in any way so I suggest you fold it in half and have it laminated. Just be careful where you put the crease. I folded mine exactly below where it lists my DOB, Hgt, Wgt, etc.
    I then trimmed off a tiny bit of the white space using an exacto blade and a ruler. ***Please check both sides before making a cut so that you are only cutting off unused white space.***

    Before any loud mouths here start barking that you cannot "modify" your CCW, the person at the SLO Sheriffs Office who handed me my card said that I could do so to make it fit my wallet as long as I only cut off unused white space. So just pin your lip, bub.

    So the entire process took exactly 3 months and it would have been even faster had I not written such a short Good Cause Statement on my first attempt. I blame myself for taking bad advice from some who posted on this thread and elsewhere on CG.

    Anyway, good luck to all who are going through the process. Stay safe and remember to TRAIN!
    Originally posted by cosmos7
    It's been that way for several decades now, and does not appear to have changed. If you live in an incorporated city you will be forced to apply there first. Once denied and go back to the sheriff you get denied again because of "adequate law enforcement coverage and response times". If you want proof just read back through this thread. Want a CCW to fly your F***ing hawk on private property in the back country? No problem. Want a CCW because you work nights in a less safe area and transport valuables? F*** yourself, there's a substation 20 minutes away... deal with it.
    Originally posted by skyscraper
    The conclusions you have drawn from this thread are not indicative of SLO county as a whole. I applied through local PD, got denied, and then approved through SLO sheriff. And I'm not connected in any way to the Sheriffs office nor do I fly hawks on private property.

    I wouldn't make such blanket statements when you have very little facts to back them up.
    Originally posted by offrdmania
    Just picked up my new permit. SLO county has not gone to the drivers license style permit yet. They have temporarily halted the switch until they can come up with a design that is in line with other counties in California so that there is no discrepancy.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    I'm not the one having to resort to Ignore List.
    Unfortunately for you, you replied before I did that.

    I'm not the one resorting to deleting his posts.... See how the link to your post I quoted is now dead in post #422 of mine.

    Originally posted by Hopalong
    Talk about worthless posts, based on ZERO knowledge of SLO county.
    No, but others in SLO do. Your fight is with them, not with me.... (To others: notice how Hopalong doesn't fight with them, regardless of which side they're on! )

    Originally posted by Hopalong
    As far what the deal is in SLO county, anyone feel free to message me, I'll fill you in.
    While Hopalong may think he knows it all and what he says is the final word, to objective readers of CGN, here's what others have said about getting CCWs in SLO. For myself and how the map makers think the colors should go, we have to listen to BOTH sides, without prejudice, to "reverse engineer" as best we can a sheriff's current Good Cause policy & practice. Since not may people have posted their experiences this year (vs last year when many did), I'm thinking we should take SLO back to yellow given how they had removed the city PD prior denial requirement before we switch SLO to light green and then brought it back after we switched it (and that was 1 of the 3 reasons we made the switch).

    Originally posted by offrdmania
    UPDATE: Went in for my interview this morning at the Sheriffs. Had my picture taken, paid my fees, did Livescan fingerprinting and sat down with the under Sheriff for my interview. I actually held my permit for a few seconds to verify all of my personal info was correct on it but it wont be date stamped until the livescan approval number comes in and he told me 8-10 weeks for that.
    Its just like buying a firearm; you hold it in your hands, pay for it but then have the 10 day wait except this is 70 days. I guess ill hurry up and wait.
    Originally posted by offrdmania
    I just got the call to come in and pick up my permit. Ill be heading out in the morning to pick it up.
    Originally posted by offrdmania
    Im county so applied through the Sheriff only.
    I deliver large sums to rural areas where law enforcement response times are greatly increased and cell phones have no signal. This combination was good cause.
    Originally posted by RumT
    Interviewed 7/18
    Got the call to pick up 11/28
    Originally posted by bongski
    I supervise inmate trustees and if necessary, discipline them. If i write them up, it can lead to loss in visitation, commissary, and their good time, work time.
    Before i even thought of applying for a ccw, i asked for a meeting with the undersheriff. He pretty much gave me my reason: possible retaliation from a disciplined inmate." Of course I had to elaborate a little bit more.
    Originally posted by bongski
    Update:
    I received a letter today from the SO saying I was tentatively approved, and needed to take a class (in which i already did, and qualified) and schedule an appointment with the undersheriff.
    Originally posted by skyscraper
    I recommend Curio relic or any other FFL for good cause.

    Parkinson is a good Sheriff who does issue. Maybe not for self defense yet... but I don't see him losing reelection. He has tons of support.
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    Went for my interview a awhile back and the officer said he was issuing me a permit without any restrictions. ...
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    Current Sheriff is extremely pro-CCW.

    I WOULD NOT BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER CANDIDATE!!!!

    He hired extra officers to help in just issuing CCW. Started another department.

    If the cities deny you of a CCW. The sheriff department will review your app and can overrule.

    I suggest supporting this current sheriff!!!
    Originally posted by ColdDeadHands1
    BS. He might issue to rich north county ranchers and Farmers. That's it. Not regular people.
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    No many regular people. I know many and meet many at the classes. When I was at the interview. 2 people came to pick up their permits and I saw a stack of permits waiting.
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    I was approved for carrying large sums of money and driving exotic cars. Most of the people I know got theirs because they live in unincorporated areas. Mostly self defense if your asking.
    Originally posted by cosmos7
    Yes, that's exactly it. If you live outside of an incorporated city and far enough away from a sheriff substation that they feel results in an extended response time you can get a permit. You live in a city and the sheriff will not issue barring other factors.
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    Got the call from SLO SHERIFFS to come pick up my CCW. The DOJ are knocking the livescans out she said. Took 29 days from interview
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    I don't know about who they issue too, as I am a business owner. But the people I qualified with were all average people. An older maybe retired couple, and about 8 other men and women. In 8 hour class and qualifying in pairs. You get to know each other. 3 of the people were from my town. Just average joes. Now I don't know if they passed their class or the interview. But my guess was they did as they were pre-approved. Though one woman was having problems qualifying on the range. On the packet you fill out you need to state the reason you are applying. I assume if they pre-approved you the reason was good enough.
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    Just a side note on my just cause. They did not ask to see my business license or show proof that I even carry large sums of money. I think they look more at moral fiber and that you currently a clean criminal record.
    Originally posted by tokyodrftr
    To Paladin
    Thanks for your diligence and good work. I'll keep you posted on my Area. I think they may need to rethink the California map for SLO CO.
    Originally posted by skyscraper
    Yes. Slo should be under "reasonable good cause required ".
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  • Hopalong
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    Originally posted by ColdDeadHands1
    You need to be a north county rancher with over 500 acres to receive a CCW in SLO county. Am I right Hopalong?
    You don't need to have 500 acres, but rural is the key word.

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  • ColdDeadHands1
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    You need to be a north county rancher with over 500 acres to receive a CCW in SLO county. Am I right Hopalong?

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  • Hopalong
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    These "contribute" nothing to the cause or to this thread.

    Either you don't know what "summarily" means, or your memory is failing you.... See my posts #422, 423, and 424 at:


    Poor word choice; failing memory; and now self-centered and easily agitated. If you're over 65 years old ....

    Rather than waste my time and effort (yet again!), replying to your worthless posts, I'll just add you to my Ignore List (click on "User CP" and scroll down the left hand column), so that I don't even see your posts. For the peace of CGN and your own mental well-being, I suggest you do the same.
    LOL

    Typical keyboard commando

    Mr. Cut&Paste

    Talk about worthless posts, based on ZERO knowledge of SLO county.

    They are Fake News. Based on political nonsense that you read, not reality or facts.

    I'll submit that my EXPERIENCE as a long time RESIDENT of SLO county actually does contribute

    I know many people that have applied, been approved, and been denied.

    Easily agitated? LOL

    I'm not the one having to resort and hide behind an Ignore List.

    I'll take your hate all day, bring it.

    As far what the deal is in SLO county, anyone feel free to message me, I'll fill you in.
    Last edited by Hopalong; 12-16-2018, 11:12 AM.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    I contributed plenty.

    Lived in Slo County for 45 years.

    First applied for CCW 38 years ago.

    Have had (and currently have) a CCW for 20 years under 2 sheriffs.
    These "contribute" nothing to the cause or to this thread.

    Originally posted by Hopalong
    I told you what the deal was around here, with multiple, multiple, examples.

    You, who knows absolutely nothing about this county, summarily rejected everything I said.
    Either you don't know what "summarily" means, or your memory is failing you.... See my posts #422, 423, and 424 at:


    Originally posted by Hopalong
    Why do you think no-one wants to speak up here?

    571 permits, according to the Undersheriff, and a population of 285,000

    LOL!
    Poor word choice; failing memory; and now self-centered and easily agitated. If you're over 65 years old ....

    Rather than waste my time and effort (yet again!), replying to your worthless posts, I'll just add you to my Ignore List (click on "User CP" and scroll down the left hand column), so that I don't even see your posts. For the peace of CGN and your own mental well-being, I suggest you do the same.

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  • Hopalong
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    Laughter from "the Peanut Gallery."

    If you don't have anything to contribute ....
    I contributed plenty.

    Lived in Slo County for 45 years.

    First applied for CCW 38 years ago.

    Have had (and currently have) a CCW for 20 years under 2 sheriffs.

    I told you what the deal was around here, with multiple, multiple, examples.

    You, who knows absolutely nothing about this county, summarily rejected everything I said.

    Why do you think no-one wants to speak up here?

    571 permits, according to the Undersheriff, and a population of 285,000

    LOL!

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    LOL
    Laughter from "the Peanut Gallery."

    If you don't have anything to contribute ....

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  • Hopalong
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    LOL

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    Has anyone been issued/denied a CCW by SLO Co SO this year? If so, can you post or PM me (communications kept in strict confidence) what your Good Cause was like, but not so much detail as to ID yourself?

    I've been involved with making the CA CCW GC map for ~7 years and just trying to make sure it is accurate, that SLO is light green.
    Giving this a bump.

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