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  • jonbbrew
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    Congrats! What city or SLO county? Would be interested in what "reason" is working nowadays.

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  • jonbbrew
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    GREAT! Thank you!

    Originally posted by 445cat
    Hi all,
    SB 918 is still not law. It only just passed the appropriations and will go before the vote in the assembly soon. Then it goes to the Senate.
    NOW is the time to say something to your reps and make your voice heard.

    You aren't put on any list and it is your right as a citizen to say something. They count on you NOT saying anything to pass these awful bills.

    You can find your representative through this link:
    Use your residential address to find your California State Senate and Assembly representatives.


    This is a statement I have been sending to my rep and others:
    Hi,
    I'm writing to say that I disapprove of State Bill 918 that is coming up for a vote.

    SB 918 is a very far reaching and broad bill that concerns every private business. It concerns every citizen's right to have a CCW in our great state. Not only does it make even more locations illegal to carry, it forces every business owner to make a decision if they support our Second Amendment Right. It forces business owners to draw a line that shouldn't be drawn. This brings Private Business, into a political issue.

    California already has the toughest application process for gaining this right as a Law Abiding Citizen. We are business owners, workers but most of all; Mothers and Fathers that want a right to protect themselves and their families from real threats in this world. A world that is becoming increasingly dangerous.

    The recent Supreme Court decision in NYRPA v. Bruen has officially made the right to Carry a Concealed Weapon, for Self-Defense) every US Citizen's right. SB 918 is an obvious infringement on this right. This bill will be challenged from Day One by many California Gun Rights Groups. These groups(CRPA, GOC, CGRF/Michelle & Assoc., FPC, NRA) have been very successful in challenging laws that infringe on our rights, to the 9th Circuit Level. They have also been successful in getting decisions that prove they are an obvious violation(see; Miller v. Bonta, Duncan v. Bonta etc..).

    I am writing to you to voice that this State Bill is too far reaching. This is an unreasonable restriction on an already restricted right.

    Please Vote No on SB 918.


    Please, look up your representative and make your voice heard. There is literally nothing to lose.

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  • 445cat
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    SB 918

    Hi all,
    SB 918 is still not law. It only just passed the appropriations and will go before the vote in the assembly soon. Then it goes to the Senate.
    NOW is the time to say something to your reps and make your voice heard.

    You aren't put on any list and it is your right as a citizen to say something. They count on you NOT saying anything to pass these awful bills.

    You can find your representative through this link:
    Use your residential address to find your California State Senate and Assembly representatives.


    This is a statement I have been sending to my rep and others:
    Hi,
    I'm writing to say that I disapprove of State Bill 918 that is coming up for a vote.

    SB 918 is a very far reaching and broad bill that concerns every private business. It concerns every citizen's right to have a CCW in our great state. Not only does it make even more locations illegal to carry, it forces every business owner to make a decision if they support our Second Amendment Right. It forces business owners to draw a line that shouldn't be drawn. This brings Private Business, into a political issue.

    California already has the toughest application process for gaining this right as a Law Abiding Citizen. We are business owners, workers but most of all; Mothers and Fathers that want a right to protect themselves and their families from real threats in this world. A world that is becoming increasingly dangerous.

    The recent Supreme Court decision in NYRPA v. Bruen has officially made the right to Carry a Concealed Weapon, for Self-Defense) every US Citizen's right. SB 918 is an obvious infringement on this right. This bill will be challenged from Day One by many California Gun Rights Groups. These groups(CRPA, GOC, CGRF/Michelle & Assoc., FPC, NRA) have been very successful in challenging laws that infringe on our rights, to the 9th Circuit Level. They have also been successful in getting decisions that prove they are an obvious violation(see; Miller v. Bonta, Duncan v. Bonta etc..).

    I am writing to you to voice that this State Bill is too far reaching. This is an unreasonable restriction on an already restricted right.

    Please Vote No on SB 918.


    Please, look up your representative and make your voice heard. There is literally nothing to lose.

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  • IFixPrius
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  • valinor223
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    I recently submitted by CCW application to the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff the day the Bruen decision was released. I had all of my documents ready and was just waiting to submit until after the decision. After submitting, I received a message requesting two items 1) All the reasons I wanted to carry and 2) a letter from my employer stating the following:

    "Scan a copy of a letter from your place of employment if the applicant wishes to carry the concealed weapon while working for a business. The Business Owner, Corporation Chairman or person with the designated authority must submit a letter acknowledging the applicant’s request for a CCW license and that the employee is strongly encouraged to carry while performing duties for the entity as a condition of employment. If the applicant is the owner of the business, you do not need to provide this document."

    I submitted Item #1 since I had already been working on a good cause statement. I have no issue with the Sheriffs Department wanting to understand more about me and knowing the reasons I have for wanting to carry to defend myself. One of these reasons I submitted does involve carrying while working as I am often required to go to field locations and at times outside my control (sometimes nights), which in my opinion, really are the risky parts of my life and when I would most need to defend myself since I have little to no control over the location and time and cannot remove myself from the situation or avoid the area because its my job to be there.

    I asked about the Workplace Letter during my interview and they stated that this is a requirement and they cannot think of many exceptions that have been granted in the past. They stated that if I did not receive this letter, there would be a restriction on my license that it is not valid while working for X Company. I have since talked to my employer about providing a work place letter and they are unwilling to write the letter as they feel it could cause them to take on undue liability. They have no issue with me carrying during working hours, but do not want to be on record as having allowed this in case they were dragged into a lawsuit. Even though they didn't write me the letter, they were really cool about it and I'm glad to work where I do. I would like to note that I did research of my company policy during this process and there is nothing prohibiting me from carrying while working.

    I know many departments/agencies are scrambling to adjust their policies and procedures following Bruen, but I feel like this is still resembling a "good cause" justification and is being used to limit my right to providing self defense outside the home.

    Do you have recommendations on how I should proceed next?

    I am thinking my next steps are to write my own letter to the Sheriff stating that I have requested the workplace letter and they are unwilling to provide it for the reasons mentioned above. I will again outline the risks that I face while working and explain that my reasons are solely for being able to defend myself outside the home. Are there any quotes or other statements from the Bruen case that I should mention in my letter to help strengthen my case and assist the department in re-evaluating their procedures?

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  • bubba542009
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    It is there but you select yes or no. If you want to leave a statement you can or you click no and leave it blank

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  • IFixPrius
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    Did they have a space to fill in for good cause? Or did they take it out?

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  • CoachZ89
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  • IFixPrius
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    Just a heads up they told me it would be 2-8 weeks before my final approval was done through DOJ.

    This was after fingerprinting and interviewing and being told I passed.

    I am on week 8 so far and they are still waiting for DOJ to give the nod of approval. Expect these wait times to increase now that California has to abide by the constitution.

    Anyone else apply without good cause And get approved? I hear Santa Barbara county is getting better luck.

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  • offrdmania
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    Originally posted by Hopalong
    Just renewed with SLO County Sheriff, after taking class at Rangemasters.
    Class isn't too bad, they got some new videos in, and the scenarios are interesting.
    They had three classes this week, limited to 4 per class because of Covid.
    My bet is that John will have as many classes available as needed.
    The section about "good cause" is still on the application, but in big bold letters is states "because of the recent Supreme Court decision, this section is no longer required. If you wish to leave a statement anyway, check "yes" and leave your statement"
    I checked "no" and did not leave a statement.
    My renewal was in May and I had to leave a long drawnout good cause statement. Hopefully this ruling sticks around for my next renewal in 2 years

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  • CoachZ89
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  • CoachZ89
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    Bubba542009 you pick a date and time at the end of the application process.

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  • offrdmania
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    Maybe this means I wont need to submit a long drawn out good cause statement and have a letter sent in from my work when I renew

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  • bubba542009
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    Did they call you to set up appt

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  • CoachZ89
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    I applied today, with No for good clause and my appt is 8/23

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