San Mateo

[jimhu]

I didn't know at the time that I can hand it directly to the SM Sheriff. I just stopped at the Belmont PD to ask about this and they have handed me the application. When I dropped it off, they didn't really interview me, just collected it and said thanks.

Now I wonder what to do next. Shell I go back to Belmont PD and ask for status or go to the sheriff office with a new application.

Update, Belmont PD is returning my application saying that I should have filled pages 11-14. I think this is wrong. It says so on the application itself and also on the application from the Sheriff office. So I think I will take this opportunity to withdraw it and take it directly to the Sheriff office. It seems at the sheriff office they are more familiar with the process .

[edwardm]

Just FYI, it took me one day to get an "interview" which consisted of me calling and asking when I could come in. I did my livescan on 2/15 and got an email today that my results were back and my application is being forwarded up the chain. We'll see how long it takes to get a decision, but things seem to be moving pretty fast.

I'm annoyed. I was in there an hour before you and still nothing.

Oh well. Patience is a virtue, I suppose.

[Audi0phile]

Thanks Gene, exactly the info I was looking for.

I was aware that scpd was rolled into the sheriff's dept. so I did think it was odd todays meeting is with the "chief". Maybe scpd is their own little club inside of the san matron sheriffs dept lol.

[hoffmang]

Would this be a venue that could be utilized to further my quest for a CCL? Specifically, ask the Police Chief directly if living in my neighborhood would provide me with good cause for a CCL?

San Carlos disbanded their muni-PD and folded it into the Sheriff's office. This sort of general concern isn't enough to rise to the level of "good cause" in San Mateo though. You need something more specifically applicable to you.

-Gene

[natrab]

Just FYI, it took me one day to get an "interview" which consisted of me calling and asking when I could come in. I did my livescan on 2/15 and got an email today that my results were back and my application is being forwarded up the chain. We'll see how long it takes to get a decision, but things seem to be moving pretty fast.

[Audi0phile]

Hey y'all. Been following this thread for a lil while, especially glad to see some fellow San Carlos residents here.

I received an email today which motivated me to finally join CalGuns and get in on it. The Greater East San Carlos board is concerned about the recent rise of crime in our area, namely, the small neighborhood on the wrong side of the tracks. They have sent this out:

Dear Greater East San Carlos residents,



There have been several burglaries in the neighborhood over the past year, and as a result the GESC Board has requested a community meeting with the San Carlos Police Department to discuss what the neighborhood can do in cooperation with the Police Department. Captain Greg Rothaus will meet with us March 1, 2012 7:00-to 8:30 p.m. at the Laureola Community Center. The Agenda for the evening is as follows:



1) History and trends of crime in San Carlos.



2) History and trends of crime in Greater East San Carlos neighborhood.



3) San Mateo County Alert System.



4) The Neighborhood Watch Program.



5) Other issues of concern to the GESC neighborhood that the Police should be aware of.



We encourage you to come and participate. Please speak with you neighbors and encourage them to attend as well. The key to a safe neighborhood is residents watching out for other residents in cooperation with the Police. Please come and learn how to be more involved in improving your neighborhoods safety.



See you there.



Sam Herzberg, GESC Board Member








Would this be a venue that could be utilized to further my quest for a CCL? Specifically, ask the Police Chief directly if living in my neighborhood would provide me with good cause for a CCL?

I am planning on attending and would be willing to meet up with any fellow CalGunners in case they were thinking about it too.


A CCW is like a seatbelt, would rather have one than not; if this provides a small window for me to obtain one, I'd like to take it. I do not want to cause a ruckus though, should this be a poor venue to advance my cause so I am here seeking advice.

[edwardm]

~1 mo to get called to interview
~1 mo to get results from live scan (and approval/denial from Sheriff)
~1 mo to get into the class/qualification
~1 mo to get your permit.

give or take a couple of weeks for each step.

Oh. Well, the interview happens (now, at least, and assuming you call ahead) when you drop off the app. So that 30 day wait goes out the window. Fill in the boxes and bubbles, make a call, show up, burn an hour talking to the nice man and getting livescanned.

Still seems odd that in this digital age, a livescan takes 4 weeks to complete, though I don't disbelieve you.

[gose]

I'm assuming from what I've read in this subforum and in others, that a good part of the wait involves a Livescan return.
Can anyone tell me why it takes so long to get the livescan results? When my friends took the bar exam a few years ago (2006), the State Bar had results in days, not months.
I'll temper that with I have no idea how fingerprint-based checks proceed or what exactly they involve. But the State Bar is doing the same sorts of checks that the Sheriff is doing, FBI, State, inserting microscope up your backside, etc.
In fact, come to think of it, some of the questions on the CHL app are reminiscent of bar application (the moral character part) questions and inquiries. Too bad a determination on one can't substitute for the other.

~1 mo to get called to interview
~1 mo to get results from live scan (and approval/denial from Sheriff)
~1 mo to get into the class/qualification
~1 mo to get your permit.

give or take a couple of weeks for each step.

[edwardm]

Even when you apply directly to the SMSD, the process is likely to take 3-4 months, patience is a virtue

I'm assuming from what I've read in this subforum and in others, that a good part of the wait involves a Livescan return.

Can anyone tell me why it takes so long to get the livescan results? When my friends took the bar exam a few years ago (2006), the State Bar had results in days, not months.

I'll temper that with I have no idea how fingerprint-based checks proceed or what exactly they involve. But the State Bar is doing the same sorts of checks that the Sheriff is doing, FBI, State, inserting microscope up your backside, etc.

In fact, come to think of it, some of the questions on the CHL app are reminiscent of bar application (the moral character part) questions and inquiries. Too bad a determination on one can't substitute for the other.

[gose]

Dropped my application with the Belmont PD last Friday, haven't heard from them since. Is it too early to stop by and ask for a status?

Even when you apply directly to the SMSD, the process is likely to take 3-4 months, patience is a virtue

[edwardm]

I didn't know at the time that I can hand it directly to the SM Sheriff. I just stopped at the Belmont PD to ask about this and they have handed me the application. When I dropped it off, they didn't really interview me, just collected it and said thanks.

Now I wonder what to do next. Shell I go back to Belmont PD and ask for status or go to the sheriff office with a new application.

That's an interesting question, to which I don't know the answer. I suppose you could ask to voluntarily withdraw the application and resubmit it to SMCSO. That shouldn't count as a "denial", so I don't think that would matter.

Unless someone else already knows, I should see if I can arrange a time to talk to the chief. I've no idea what his stand is on CHL's, other than the blurb on the BPD web site. I was surprised when I went down there to get my prints rolled for AZ and found that they had the apps on hand and ready to hand out.

When I was a kid, several of the rank-and-file BPD officers were pro-2A, but that was some decades ago. No idea now.

[jimhu]

Why did you give it to Belmont PD?

I didn't know at the time that I can hand it directly to the SM Sheriff. I just stopped at the Belmont PD to ask about this and they have handed me the application. When I dropped it off, they didn't really interview me, just collected it and said thanks.

Now I wonder what to do next. Shell I go back to Belmont PD and ask for status or go to the sheriff office with a new application.

[edwardm]

Dropped my application with the Belmont PD last Friday, haven't heard from them since. Is it too early to stop by and ask for a status?

Why did you give it to Belmont PD?

[jimhu]

Dropped my application with the Belmont PD last Friday, haven't heard from them since. Is it too early to stop by and ask for a status?

[natrab]

Called in yesterday and came in to do my livescan today. Now it's just waiting to see if it's approved. Tom Merson was the person to talk to and he was very nice and informative.