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  • Hans Gruber
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 1901

    Los Angeles (old posts)

    I look forward to the day when us 'little people' can be afforded the right to defend ourselves with every tool available.

    That's all
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  • #2
    voiceofreason
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3785

    Sadly, L.A. county has the funds, the will, and the political muscle to fight and fight hard.

    It will likely be one of the last counties to fall into compliance with the law.

    We've been praying for relief from L.A. county's anti-CCW policies for years. Calguns is making it a reality. (single tear falls from eye)

    THANK YOU CALGUNS!
    "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
    John Quincy Adams

    "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
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    • #3
      AndrewMendez
      C3 Leader
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2009
      • 6777

      Originally posted by voiceofreason
      Sadly, L.A. county has the funds, the will, and the political muscle to fight and fight hard.

      It will likely be one of the last counties to fall into compliance with the law.

      We've been praying for relief from L.A. county's anti-CCW policies for years. Calguns is making it a reality. (single tear falls from eye)

      THANK YOU CALGUNS!
      I beg to differ. 1st, they don't have the money. With cuts to the schools, FD's and PD's, hiring freezes, etc, LA County DOES NOT have the money to pay for it. I will admit that it will more then likely be one of the last counties to fall though. But, there is no legal team in the world, that will save them, from the illegal acts they have been doing behind closed doors.
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      • #4
        ryanburbridge
        Junior Member
        • May 2010
        • 23

        Has anyone started the CCW process? My wife and I are saving money. It will be our Christmas present. Any one see a "self defense" good cause statement yet?

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        • #5
          wildhawker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2008
          • 14150

          I would suggest holding off until we are slightly farther along.
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          • #6
            spgripside
            Shall Not Be Infringed!
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2009
            • 265

            Originally posted by wildhawker
            I would suggest holding off until we are slightly farther along.
            2 weeks?
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            • #7
              wildhawker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 14150

              Originally posted by spgripside
              2 weeks?
              Something like that.
              Brandon Combs

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              My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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              • #8
                voiceofreason
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 3785

                Originally posted by ANDREWMENDEZ
                I beg to differ. 1st, they don't have the money. With cuts to the schools, FD's and PD's, hiring freezes, etc, LA County DOES NOT have the money to pay for it. I will admit that it will more then likely be one of the last counties to fall though. But, there is no legal team in the world, that will save them, from the illegal acts they have been doing behind closed doors.
                I hope you're right and I'm wrong with every fiber of my being.

                Though I would not be sad if L.A. county was one of the first to begin compliance.
                "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
                John Quincy Adams

                "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
                voiceofreason

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                • #9
                  Theseus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2679

                  Although a little late for me, I went to the City of Alhambra and asked about a permit (back when I would have been legal to apply) and was told that they don't issue. I looked up and found that they do issue (at least they have issued and recently). . .

                  As I understand, if a city issues, you apply to them unless they have stated that they defer to the sheriffs office. . . so how can they issue AND defer to the sheriffs office?
                  Nothing to see here. . . Move along.

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                  • #10
                    Paul E
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 203

                    Originally posted by voiceofreason
                    Sadly, L.A. county has the funds, the will, and the political muscle to fight and fight hard.

                    It will likely be one of the last counties to fall into compliance with the law.

                    We've been praying for relief from L.A. county's anti-CCW policies for years. Calguns is making it a reality. (single tear falls from eye)

                    THANK YOU CALGUNS!
                    I'm not doubting your statement, because I think its relatively right on...But on the bright side Trutanich (city attorney) is VERY gun friendly.

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                    • #11
                      dantodd
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9360

                      Originally posted by Theseus
                      Although a little late for me, I went to the City of Alhambra and asked about a permit (back when I would have been legal to apply) and was told that they don't issue. I looked up and found that they do issue (at least they have issued and recently). . .

                      As I understand, if a city issues, you apply to them unless they have stated that they defer to the sheriffs office. . . so how can they issue AND defer to the sheriffs office?
                      They must accept your application unless they defer all of their applications to the sheriff. That being said, you can choose to apply at the city OR the sheriff, it is your choice.
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                      • #12
                        AndrewMendez
                        C3 Leader
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6777

                        Originally posted by Theseus
                        Although a little late for me, I went to the City of Alhambra and asked about a permit (back when I would have been legal to apply) and was told that they don't issue. I looked up and found that they do issue (at least they have issued and recently). . .

                        As I understand, if a city issues, you apply to them unless they have stated that they defer to the sheriffs office. . . so how can they issue AND defer to the sheriffs office?
                        They have to sign a "g" MUO indicating that they defer all of the CCW's to the County Sheriff.
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                        • #13
                          moleculo
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 945

                          This goes back a few years, but it was after Baca took office, so I guess it applies. I have a family member that obtained a CCW in Los Angeles, although it is no longer valid. At the time, he had a security guard card. He went and applied for the CCW and got approved without any further training required. All he did was show them his guard card, tell them that he got a new job transporting and guarding for a jewelry company. The remarkable thing was that they apparently didn't even bother to do the background check and find out if it was true.

                          I don't know if that story helps anything, but it does demonstrate how sad the whole CCW process in L.A. is.
                          Those acting in the public interest assume obligations of accountability and transparency. Retroactively redefining goals while claiming yet refusing to disclose some "master plan" is just the opposite. So is viciously trashing anyone who questions your judgment. -navyinrwanda

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                          • #14
                            moleculo
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 945

                            Well, I just read the L.A. Sheriff's policy. It's basically a no-issue policy. Sucks.
                            Those acting in the public interest assume obligations of accountability and transparency. Retroactively redefining goals while claiming yet refusing to disclose some "master plan" is just the opposite. So is viciously trashing anyone who questions your judgment. -navyinrwanda

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                            • #15
                              socalblue
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 811

                              Originally posted by ANDREWMENDEZ
                              They have to sign a "g" MUO indicating that they defer all of the CCW's to the County Sheriff.
                              The exception being CCW's issued to reserve police officers is usually maintained by the city when declaring "g"

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