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  • MajorCaliber
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    Thanks for the advice. GP# it is.

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  • rice_man
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    Yes I used the GP number when I renewed. No issues. I'm pretty sure if there is anything not quite right with your application they will help you along rather than boot you out of the system. No need to make a bigger deal of it than need be. I really get the feeling that the new system is a learning curve for them too and there is a lot of wiggle room here. They are more likely to help you through than boot you out over an incorrect entry.

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  • LoadedM333
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    Originally posted by MajorCaliber
    What exactly is my permit #?

    The renewal application requires my permit#. I have 3 numbers on my permit, none of which are identified as a permit #

    "ORI" format = CA+7 digits
    Local Agency Number Format = GP+5 digits
    CII# format = 9 digits

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  • MajorCaliber
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    What exactly is my permit #?

    The renewal application requires my permit#. I have 3 numbers on my permit, none of which are identified as a permit #

    "ORI" format = CA+7 digits
    Local Agency Number Format = GP+5 digits
    CII# format = 9 digits

    Does anybody know which number they want?

    I believe Kate said she knew, but I don't think she disclosed the answer

    Also, Do they do they send an investigator to your house for a residence verification for a renewal if your address has not changed? I travel on business, and it was shear luck I happened to be home in the time period between the investigator's visit and my appointment the first time around.
    Last edited by MajorCaliber; 05-27-2020, 6:13 PM. Reason: addition

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  • LoadedM333
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    Thanks again rice_man.

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  • rice_man
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    Originally posted by LoadedM333
    Thanks for the timeline rice_man. How recent is the proof of residency do they want, within a month of the appointment date?
    I am preparing for my renewal, my permit expires on July 23rd; also, all my utilities bills are paperless since I pay them online. Do they accept copies or originals of the bill?
    When I originally uploaded one of my proof of resident docs on April 30 it was my most recent March statement for that bill. So when they finally reviewed my application in on May 4 they told me I needed th April statement.

    So when I arrived for my appointment I just brought a copies of the bills I submitted along with one of the more recent ones I had since gotten. They took the more recent one to put into the file.

    It seems to me that copies of the proof of residency were fine since I asked specifically about one of mine since I too am paperless for the most part.

    So in short - my advise is to bring copies of everything you submitted online. But if you have more recent versions by the time you go in for your appointment bring those as well.

    It was the Qualification Certificate that was made clear to me that I needed the original form with the wet signature from the instructor.

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  • kris smith
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  • LoadedM333
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    Originally posted by rice_man
    For anyone interested here is a timeline of my experince for my renewal.



    Monday May 4 Was contacted by email that they needed a more recent version of one of my proof of residency documents. Since the month went from April to May during the processing they requested I resubmit a more recent on. Which I did the same day.
    Thanks for the timeline rice_man. How recent is the proof of residency do they want, within a month of the appointment date?
    I am preparing for my renewal, my permit expires on July 23rd; also, all my utilities bills are paperless since I pay them online. Do they accept copies or originals of the bill?

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  • rice_man
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    For anyone interested here is a timeline of my experince for my renewal.

    Background.
    The original plan was to call for a renewal appointment about a month ahead of my expiration date of May 13. I got caught in the transition from call for appt to apply on Permitium.

    New plan - Take 4 hour renewal certification course and submit everything online at once.

    Saturday April 18 Took 4 hour renewal qualification. This in itself was a hassle as they were still a bit in the dark about details of SD County Sheriff moving to Permitium. More on that later.

    Thursday April 30 Finally recieved my 4 hour Training Certificate from instructor.

    Thursday April 30 Completed the online form same day I received my Training Cert. Paid in full electronically. The Order Progress Tracker bar on permitium listed
    - Order Completed
    - PaymentReceived
    -Awaiting Assignement to Processor

    Monday May 4 Was contacted by email that they needed a more recent version of one of my proof of residency documents. Since the month went from April to May during the processing they requested I resubmit a more recent on. Which I did the same day.

    Friday May 8 The Order Progress Tracker bar on permitium updated Awaiting Assignment to Processor to Pending Appointment

    Wednesday May 13 - Current License expires.

    Thursday May 14 - Receive call from sheriff's office to schedule appointment. First available was May 21

    Thursday May 21 - Arrive for 11:00 appointment. Walked out with renewed license about 11:15


    My take away - I could have avoided expiration if I had submitted everything earlier. Unfortunately, the outfit that I did my qualification with took almost two weeks to email me a pdf copy of my certificate. Then took them another week to get me the origial form. I do believe they attempt to prioritize renewal appointments by expiration date. To confirm this I have a friend who is also renewing next week. He got all his docs in about three weeks ahead of time and his scheduled renewal date is the date of his expiration.

    As somone already mentioned. The transition to Permitium isn't quite complete. They want you to bring a printout of your completed forms along with original documents of everything you submitted electronically... so they can make copies of them for the file. They then instruct you specifically to be sure to carry the old version of the laminated license since San Diego County's plastic credit card license isn't yet recognized by the state. Also, they were specific about bringing in the original wet copy signed 4 hour qualification certificate - which they kept.

    Hopefully this info is helpful or provides some insight to those who will be renewing soon.
    Last edited by rice_man; 05-25-2020, 4:55 PM.

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  • Kate
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    Originally posted by ezaircon4jc
    THANKS! Good to know when renewal time comes. *Note to self.. do NOT fill out the firearms section!!*
    I just looked on their web site, and there was this quote:

    Even if you are only changing your address, type in the firearms. Same thing for duplicate CCWs. If you lost your CCW and are applying for a duplicate, list everything. Permitium is a new program for us and it requires that the most current information is in your application so we can print the card with the right information.

    I did put in all weapon information in Permitium, and when I got there, they made me re-fill out the application with NO firearm info.

    So, them's the facts, but it's clear there may be some variations in the process...



    Katie

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  • ezaircon4jc
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    Well... this is discouraging...

    CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT PAGE (CCWs)
    LICENSE AND REGISTRATION DIVISION
    MAY 19, 2020

    Due to COVID 19 and the State Social Distance Order currently in effect, we are NOT processing any NEW/INITIAL Applicants or providing any Fingerprint Services until further notice.

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  • CessnaDriver
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    Originally posted by luv2shoot
    I’ve carried First Defense OC (the L.E. grade stuff) for probably 20 years and have one in each vehicle. I’ve parked my car in the sun regularly on 110-115F+ days (inland S.D. and Riverside Counties) for decades with cans in the car and never had an issue. Looking at their spec sheet, the propellant is nitrogen which is pretty impervious to temp changes. That’s why they use it in tires to prevent temperature related blowouts.

    I had a friend who told me a story about a can of fix a flat, however, and WILL NOT leave that in a hot car.
    Thanks, that's good info. Just bought some fresh Fox Labs but I can get stuff just for the vehicles.

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  • luv2shoot
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    Per the County’s latest update to the health order (today, May 12th), “office-based businesses” can reopen: https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/conte...lth-order.html
    Hopefully this includes the Sheriff’s Office.

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  • ezaircon4jc
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    I got this today after asking about opening...

    No, we haven't heard anything yet. We're waiting to take new customers until we get the go-ahead!

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