Moving Targets

[PistolPete75]

Instead of using complicated formulas to determine lead in mils from leading edge of target, how universal is the Common Leads which is taught by the Army Sniper schools?

Under 200yards Aim center of mass
300 yards Crosshair at leading edge
400 yards A line of light in between crosshair and target leading edge
500 yards 1st mil dot on trailing edge or 6" on leading edge
600 yards 1st mil dot center of mass or 15" lead

I'm intending to use the Ambush method.

[metalhead357]

I'm intending to use the Ambush method.

on WHAT???????

[PistolPete75]

steel targets of course. going to a las vegas match which has moving targets.

i am not a sniper, however i like precision/ tactical style shooting.

[wildcard]

on WHAT???????

Two legged varmint?

[metalhead357]

Ahhh Ok, had me thinking strange and nefarious things there for a bit Wish i could help more but I've always done the "kentucy windage" for years and cant begin to 'splain to people....thats about the extent of leading that I know of.

So count this as a tag for me to get educated too

[PistolPete75]

Two legged varmint?

you mean four legged varmint right?

rabbit, coyote, and things like that.

hunters should know this very well, huh? c'mon hunters give me some advice.

[metalhead357]

\hunters should know this very well, huh? c'mon hunters give me some advice.

thats what I meant by kentuck windage. Its a cross between lead distance and the speed of the critter AND whether its running straight left or right away from you or running STRAIGHT away from you. Distance to target increases the lead significantly...

But can I quantify it? Nope. Just years of practice on Duck, Pheasent, Dove..and even a couple of deer, lots of coyotes, rabbits....etc.

But then again....I've used a scope for the 4 legged critters and a SG for the flyers; all just take/took some practice.

[metalhead357]

A rabbit running left to right at about 15 paces I put the PISTOL on his snout. A coyote running the same but already out at 100 yards I'd put about a foot lead into him (in front of him) (say about the edge of the barrel).

About the only way I can explain it withou the use of diagrams and flowcharts!!!!

[Timberwolf]

Pete

Shoot off your ruck so you have movement of the rifle. Ambush style is ok for a shot or two but if have multiple shots in a given time its best to lead and follow through and you'll need to be able to move your rifle smoothly to do so.

[PistolPete75]

Pete

Shoot off your ruck so you have movement of the rifle. Ambush style is ok for a shot or two but if have multiple shots in a given time its best to lead and follow through and you'll need to be able to move your rifle smoothly to do so.

cool, tnx for the tip.

[RossRinSD]

so, do these methods apply during a drive by if the truck is moving and the people errr.... coyote is standing still?

[PistolPete75]

so, do these methods apply during a drive by if the truck is moving and the people errr.... coyote is standing still?

i've done a drive-by type shooting in a match. extremly difficult with a heavy bolt action, at night time, and a bouncy road.

same principles, but much harder if your the one moving on a bouncy road. unstable shooting flatform.

[ar15barrels]

I'm intending to use the Ambush method.

Can I assume that "ambush method" is something akin to having a steady rifle and a specified "shoot" location where the target enters your "point of fire" as opposed to a moving gun with a sustained or swung-through lead?

[wildcard]

so, do these methods apply during a drive by if the truck is moving and the people errr.... coyote is standing still?

They apply.. but in the opposite direction. Since you're the one moving, you shoot BEFORE you get to the target and just let it "drift in." Just remember that all objects on the vehicle are already moving at the speed of the vehicle. Sorta the same logic as why you wouldn't hit the back of the train if you jumped up while inside of it.

[wildcard]

Can I assume that "ambush method" is something akin to having a steady rifle and a specified "shoot" location where the target enters your "point of fire" as opposed to a moving gun with a sustained or swung-through lead?

No.. he figures he's too manly for a gun. He's going pop out from behind a bush and stab the target with a knife instead.