AR pistol

[elmer20]

Planning on building AR pistol but do I need to get a lower that is marked "PISTOL" or I can use any lower that is legal in CA?

[AIMSMALL]

You'll have to buy a pistol lower which is difficult because they aren't on the CA approved handgun list or complete an %80 lower reciever to build as a pistol.

[TKM]

Contact Max at Precision Sports.

He took care of my pistol build after Freakshow dropped the ball, called it dirty names, backed over it with a truck, punched a tiny hole in it and made it his *****. Not that I'm bitter, bitter, bitter or anything.

He took my upper and assembled it onto a pistol lower with a single shot magazine locked into position with a bullet button type thingy.

Shipped it to my friendly neighborhood FFL and drosed it as a single shot pistol.


Thanks,
Max
Precision Sports
4717 State Road 44
Oshkosh WI 54904
Ph. 920-233-2274
Fax 920-233-2257

https://www.precisionsportsoshkosh.com

[elmer20]

You'll have to buy a pistol lower which is difficult because they aren't on the CA approved handgun list or complete an %80 lower reciever to build as a pistol.

So AR pistol is NOT legal to own in CA because is not on the legal list of handguns?

[thetaxman]

It's not on the approved roster by name, so needs to go through the exemption procedure. TKM summed it up. CA dealers sell them as well. Go to some other sections here for more info.

[elmer20]

Could a dealer dros a stripped lower receiver as a single shot pistol or does it have to be a complete pistol? just a reminder im in VA but will be moving to CA so I want all my ARs to be legal in CA. I will be converting all my ARs to bullet button and 10rnd mags, pistols will be converted to single shot mag block.

[Matt C]

Could a dealer dros a stripped lower receiver as a single shot pistol

No (unless you are an LEO) it would not be on the roster of "safe" handguns, and stripped it could not meet the requirements to be exempt.

[elmer20]

No (unless you are an LEO) it would not be on the roster of "safe" handguns, and stripped it could not meet the requirements to be exempt.

So I need to buy a complete AR pistol and have it dros as a single shot pistol?

[Matt C]

So I need to buy a complete AR pistol and have it dros as a single shot pistol?

If you buy from a dealer if from out of state, yes. Private Party Transfers in state are also exempt from the roster though, so you could buy a lower that has already gone through the process from another private party here. It could be stripped, or at least not include the upper. Except to pay a slight to significant premium (it's not too bad these days).

[elmer20]

If you buy from a dealer if from out of state, yes. Private Party Transfers in state are also exempt from the roster though, so you could buy a lower that has already gone through the process from another private party here. It could be stripped, or at least not include the upper. Except to pay a slight to significant premium (it's not too bad these days).

Im buying my AR pistols here in VA so will dros it as a single shot pistol and do the conversion to CA spec(single shot mag block and BB)

[Matt C]

Im buying my AR pistols here in VA so will dros it as a single shot pistol and do the conversion to CA spec(single shot mag block and BB)

Well, at that point you don't need to DROS, instead you are a "personal handgun importer". Whole other set of rules lol. Actually it should be easier (and cheaper), I think (if I'm wrong someone will be right along to correct me) you just need to make sure they are not AWs (so check to ensure they are offlist) then if you have a BB installed which prevents the mag from detaching without use of a tool you should be good to go. Just file this form within 5 days of importing: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/ab991frm.pdf

Also make sure not to bring any mags with more than a 10 round capacity.

[elmer20]

Well, at that point you don't need to DROS, instead you are a "personal handgun importer". Whole other set of rules lol. Actually it should be easier (and cheaper), I think (if I'm wrong someone will be right along to correct me) you just need to make sure they are not AWs (so check to ensure they are offlist) then if you have a BB installed which prevents the mag from detaching without use of a tool you should be good to go. Just file this form within 5 days of importing: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/ab991frm.pdf

Also make sure not to bring any mags with more than a 10 round capacity.

If that is the case I wanted to assemble my own AR pistol, building a stripped spike tactical lower with custom 10.5 upper(BB and 10 rnd mag). Do I still need to convert and file it as a single shot on the form AB991?

I have about thirty 20rnd mags that I'm converting to 10rnd capacity and will weld the bottom of the mag so it will be permanent.

[Matt C]

If that is the case I wanted to assemble my own AR pistol, building a stripped spike tactical lower with custom 10.5 upper(BB and 10 rnd mag). All I need is to fill out the form and I'm good.

I have about thirty 20rnd mags that I'm converting to 10rnd capacity and will weld the bottom of the mag so it will be permanent.

I think you still need to make sure the lower is a pistol lower, manufactured as such that has never had a stock. These are federal, not state issues.

[elmer20]

You replied back after the change, Do I still need to convert it to a single shot and file it on the form because it has a block for single or semi?

[Matt C]

You replied back after the change, Do I still need to convert it to a single shot and file it on the form because it has a block for single or semi?

No, you don't need to convert it, that is to get around the roster, which does not apply to you as a personal importer.