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  • Mad
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1

    Transporting WWII handgun from TX to CA

    Hello. I am new to this forum and gun ownership but a cop friend of mine recommended I post my questions here.

    My grandfather is a WWII vet. He owns a pistol that he obtained from a German soldier during the war and he has a certificate from the US gov't allowing him to own the gun as a war artifact.

    Grandpa lives in TX, has the gun in TX, and has gifted the gun to me here in So Cal.

    My questions are:

    (1) How do I transport the gun from TX to CA? Do I need any special permits? Someone suggested I disassemble it and ship but I really don't want to do that.
    (2) Do I need any other permits, registrations in order to own the gun? Obviously, I won't be using the gun and will merely be on display at home as a war artifact.

    I'd appreciate any feedback! Thanks
  • #2
    Dangerpin
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 423

    If it is an operating gun, all CA laws need to be observed.

    Since he is alive and out of state my understanding is it needs to come in through an FFL here in CA. Call around and find one in your area that will accept delivery from a non-ffl or have your Grandfather send through a local FFL of his.

    You will need to get a CA handgun safety certificate to finish processing of the firearm.

    Oh, hold on. How does the roster effect this, if at all?
    I am a member of the human race. All relevant information is to be found in my passport. And except when there is good reason for suspecting me of some crime, I will refuse to submit to police interrogation, on the grounds that any such interrogation is an intolerable nuisance. And life being as short as it is, a waste of time. Any infringement on my privacy, or interference with my liberty, any assault, however petty, against my dignity as a human being, will be rigorously prosecuted-Orson W.

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    • #3
      rt66paul
      Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 281

      If it is a WWII handgun, it is a C&R(you do NOT have to have a C&R license), so all you have to do is make sure that the mag holds >11. Assuming that it is legal in the US (not a machine pistol, etc), you should be able to transfer it into Ca(as long as you pass the requirements). There is a list somewhere here that shows a few different FFLs and their prices for out of state transfer. most charge $50-$150 +$25 DROS fees.

      When I went searching for a cheaper one, what I found were a few flakes, so it just might be in your favor to pay $75(or more) +$25 DROS for the privilege.


      Good luck

      I wish someone would give me free firearms.
      I love California, but I am afraid of its government.

      Those who choose safety over freedom are neither safe or free!
      "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." (Tacitus, Roman historian 55-117 A.D.)

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      • #4
        hnoppenberger
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 1398

        Keep it out of everyones hands- that gun means more than anyone trying to force you to handle it a certain way.
        Go take a nice drive and visit grandpa, then drive the thing back proudly.

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        • #5
          Chk Chk Boom
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 656

          Originally posted by hnoppenberger
          Keep it out of everyones hands- that gun means more than anyone trying to force you to handle it a certain way.
          Go take a nice drive and visit grandpa, then drive the thing back proudly.
          +1
          But you didn't hear that from here...
          Originally posted by Mute
          People who get their life lessons from Disney cartoons are, how can I say this diplomatically, fricking retards.
          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          If you guys all shot more, you would have more to post about.

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by hnoppenberger
            Keep it out of everyones hands- that gun means more than anyone trying to force you to handle it a certain way.
            Go take a nice drive and visit grandpa, then drive the thing back proudly.
            so you would suggest that the OP violate federal law doing that


            To the OP, if you can take the time to get your C&R FFL before you visit gramps, you can legally bring back any C&R firearms that he wants to give you. Just have to register any C&R handguns with CADOJ within 5-days.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              hnoppenberger
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 1398

              Only in california would you hear a response like that.
              I really have no desire to discuss anything with someone that does not have respect for a person of that era and that sacrifice.
              I will say, an 03 ffl is never a bad idea.

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by hnoppenberger
                Only in california would you hear a response like that.
                really, only in CA would you hear someone explaining that another person's advice would violate federal law (CA law would not be violated in this case, maybe after 30-days, if he didn't register it)

                I really have no desire to discuss anything with someone that does not have respect for a person of that era and that sacrifice.
                how does explaing the law show a lack of respect for that WWII vet
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  Barbarossa
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4433

                  I understood that Intrafamily or inheritance issues make the FFL not needed for handguns and makes transfer Roster exempt (so does C&R status on Rostering) but does not stop reporting via Intrafamilar form or Operation of Law form.

                  $19.00

                  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
                  Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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                  • #10
                    professorhard
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2328

                    Originally posted by rt66paul
                    If it is a WWII handgun, it is a C&R(you do NOT have to have a C&R license), so all you have to do is make sure that the mag holds >11. Assuming that it is legal in the US (not a machine pistol, etc), you should be able to transfer it into Ca(as long as you pass the requirements). There is a list somewhere here that shows a few different FFLs and their prices for out of state transfer. most charge $50-$150 +$25 DROS fees.

                    When I went searching for a cheaper one, what I found were a few flakes, so it just might be in your favor to pay $75(or more) +$25 DROS for the privilege.


                    Good luck

                    I wish someone would give me free firearms.
                    LOL make sure the mag holds MORE than 11 rounds? Good advice
                    God, grant me the serenity
                    To accept the things I cannot change;
                    The courage to change the things I can;
                    And the wisdom to know the difference.

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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
                      Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      Originally posted by Barbarossa
                      I understood that Intrafamily or inheritance issues make the FFL not needed for handguns and makes transfer Roster exempt (so does C&R status on Rostering) but does not stop reporting via Intrafamilar form or Operation of Law form.

                      $19.00

                      Please correct me if I'm wrong.
                      CA's intrafamily exemption does not exempt you from the federal requirement that all transfers between residents of different states go through an FFL.

                      Regarding inheritance, yes, if the grandfather died, the OP could receive it directly to him, without needing to use an FFL. But since his grandfaterh is thankfully still alive, that exemption is not available to the OP at this time.

                      that $19 CADOJ form does not exempt you from federal law, even though CADOJ (and many FFLs) will say that it does.
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        Originally posted by professorhard
                        LOL make sure the mag holds MORE than 11 rounds? Good advice


                        he meant <11, less than eleven.
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          professorhard
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2328

                          Originally posted by ke6guj


                          he meant <11, less than eleven.
                          haha I figured so.
                          God, grant me the serenity
                          To accept the things I cannot change;
                          The courage to change the things I can;
                          And the wisdom to know the difference.

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                          • #14
                            Barbarossa
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 4433

                            Originally posted by ke6guj
                            CA's intrafamily exemption does not exempt you from the federal requirement that all transfers between residents of different states go through an FFL.

                            Regarding inheritance, yes, if the grandfather died, the OP could receive it directly to him, without needing to use an FFL. But since his grandfaterh is thankfully still alive, that exemption is not available to the OP at this time.

                            that $19 CADOJ form does not exempt you from federal law, even though CADOJ (and many FFLs) will say that it does.
                            We're his Grandfather a CA resident then no issues. Correct?
                            Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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                            • #15
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by Barbarossa
                              We're his Grandfather a CA resident then no issues. Correct?
                              correct, if both the OP and his grandfather were CA-residents, then it would be no issue for his grandfather to give the handgun to him. Since there would be interstate issues, federal law wouldn't apply. The OP'd just have to file the intrafamily regstration form within 30-days.
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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